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Championship grouping

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#2 · Tasmanian Devil

2 Jun 2004

Does anybody know how the selection of players for the Championship Leagues works?

Yes, it's in the FAQ.

I played my first Twixt championship in the third league. That was okay since my rating was pretty low back then. But now my rating matches that of some players if the first league - still I have to play the current Championship in League 3 again :(

You can only advance to league 1 on rating if you are in top 10 (and have not played in league 1 before).

#3 · Tim Shih

2 Jun 2004

T. D., our most respectable guru at LG, or others who know the information, where is it written? (regarding being top 10 leads to automatic participation in league 1 if s/he has not played in league 1 in the past)

#4 · technolion

2 Jun 2004

This is what the FAQ says:

"The Championship is the long term tournament, where all players are in the same tournament. The championship is played in round robins of 9 players each. They are divided in leagues. The first 9 players play in the first league, and dispute the championship. The next 18 players are in the two second leagues, the are 4 third leagues, and so on (chess and Go19x19 are almost needing a 4th league, when I write this). The first 2 of each league advance to a better league in the next tournament. Since draws can occur, it might be possible that more players advance. The first 3 of a league are always certain to maintain (if not advance) their place. Normally up to 5th place is pretty sure. New players start in lowest league."

So, if I understand correctly, for the first Championship ever in a LG game the 9 best players play in the first league, the next 18 players in second league an so on. After a championship is finished the first 2 of each league advance to the higher league.

The FAQ says that new players (who have not played in a championship) will start in the lowest league. That seems to be untrue for me (started my first championship in third league although there was a fourth league in that and in the previous championship).

#5 · Tasmanian Devil

2 Jun 2004

I think people who have not played rated games or have a low rating tend to be put in the lowest leagues, while those who join with a better rating are put in "vacancies" in the higher leagues that are due to others leaving the championships. The rules are not clear on this. But once you are in, you usually have to be in top-2 of your group to advance (as the FAQ says).

#6 · Hjallti

3 Jun 2004

I've written the FAQ some 1 and half year ago. The FAQ are still not updated. (One could safe them as text file complete them and send them back to Richard).

Anyway the situation is a little bit changed from back then... Any top10 player that never played in the top league will be put in the top league next tournament. (((together with the top 3 of the first league, the top 2 of both second leagues, and filled to get to 9; in an impossible chain of events one might have 17 players or more in first league, but some first league were started with 10 players)))

Furthermore, it is possible that in previous and current tournament the are 4 leagues (more then 63 players), but that even in 3 leagues are new players because I can imagine that there are 20 players left and 30 joined...

#7 · technolion

3 Jun 2004

Thanks for clarifying this, Hjallti.

#8 · David Scott

3 Jun 2004

It seems possible to me that there could also be ties in the second sections that could lead to more players being "qualified" for the top section. For example, lets say the first section is a 9-way tie, as are the two second sections. Also the top 10 rated players are independent of these three tournaments and have never played in the top section. Then the top section would have 37 automatic qualifiers! Obviously this will never happen in practice, but I am curious as to what would happen.