#1 · Carroll
11 Dec 2017
LG is over 1,900,000 games played, try to guess on which we will play the 2 millionth game ?
My guess is on 2nd of October 2018.
Public forum discussion.
11 Dec 2017
LG is over 1,900,000 games played, try to guess on which we will play the 2 millionth game ?
My guess is on 2nd of October 2018.
11 Dec 2017
2018-08-08 08:08:08 my guess for start time of game 2 000 000
12 Dec 2017
2017-06-05 05:06:20.17
12 Dec 2017
2017-06-05 is in the past
12 Dec 2017
Should we agree on a limit date to post answers?
I propose 2018-02-28 23:59:59 as this limit date.
Also maybe we should not accept manipulation by creating tons of new games on proposed date.
12 Dec 2017
Or we could go until last second with a rating system giving more points for earlier answers depending on both distance to correct answer and distance in time for the prediction ?
I don't know what the right formula for this point system would be. It seems like exponentially harder to give accurate prediction in advance, but maybe some estimators become precise after a few months of data and the months left until final time do not matter too much ?
12 Dec 2017
My guess is 2018
12 Dec 2017
Oh so another parameter to take into account for the rating formula is the precision of the guessing date ;)
12 Dec 2017
WHAT?!
Okay okay, i'm changing my guess. I have done all the maths. the last 100k games took 14 months. Given that there is only 90k to go it has to be approximately in 14*0.9=12.6 months. My guess is christmas 2018.
12 Dec 2017
234.2 games a day?
I haven't seen that on last days...
14 Dec 2017
Einstein 1-point has a pretty active scene, huh? ;)
1 Mar 2018
70k-
1 Mar 2018
prediction: 2018-08-16
1 Mar 2018
TIMELIMIT WAS 2018-02-28 23:59:59
UR LATE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
1 Mar 2018
!
1 Mar 2018
I propose the limit be extended ;)
2 Mar 2018
OK request granted, you have until 2018-03-31 23:59:59
And I change my prediction to 2018-12-05
Current predictions:
2018-06-05 05:06:20.18: mmKall ? on 2017-12-12
2018-08-16: Ypercube on 2018-03-01
2018-12-05: Carroll on 2018-03-02
2018-12-25: Purgency on2017-12-12
There is still room for improvement...
2 Mar 2018
Also 2018-08-08 08:08:08 by The_Burglar
2 Mar 2018
Yes sorry
2 Mar 2018
cheers the super 8 is sure to win mate
3 Mar 2018
2019-01-09 01:01:09
4 Mar 2018
It would be cool to continue to play near the time when it reaches 2M.
Anyone can come up with a rating formula giving more points to earlier predictions and accepting late predictions with less points when we approach the certainty?
14 Apr 2018
1940258 games just 59742 more too goo
15 Apr 2018
Where did you get that number? When I open the LG homepage I get a smaller number:1,936,963 Games
15 Apr 2018
I guess The_Burglar referred to the game with highest game_id and forgot that there have been some gaps in the id sequence.
15 Apr 2018
I propose as the score sqrt(days between date estimate issued and date of estimate) - (days between date of estimate and date of actual).
15 Apr 2018
yes got it now 1,937,249 games
g -62751
16 Apr 2018
I accept Bill's proposition to have an inverse square law for predictions errors, with this law, here are the prediction budgets (in days) for each prediction received:
- mmKall for2018-06-05 05:06:20.1: 13.23
-Ypercube for2018-08-16: 12.96
-Carroll for 2018-12-05: 16.67
-Purgency for2018-12-25: 19.44
-The_Burglar for2018-08-08 08:08:08: 15.49
The error in days will be subtracted from this prediction budget to get a score.
16 Apr 2018
So my prediction error has to be less than 19.44 in order for me to beat the dude that leaves his estimate on the very day that the gamecount hits 2 million, hence finishing with a score of 0?
17 Apr 2018
Yep. I was assuming that at least one one competitor would get a score greater than zero. This system is probably not optimal for determining 2nd place, etc. Perhaps for second place finisher, the formula should double the bonus (meaning that you'd only need to be within 38.88 to beat that player).
17 Apr 2018
Well, some theoretical work to backup formulas, constants would be nice.
I think the distribution of games played through time can be estimated.
The mean is easy, I have not tried to compute the standard deviation.
Knowing these figures we can compute how far an estimate may lie from the real date, 3 days before or ten days before or now and so change the bonus coefficient so that it is not way easier to get a positive score just the day before it reaches 2M...
17 Apr 2018
As the distribution of games through time is a Poisson law (of varying parameter lambda, depending on new tournaments...), both the mean and the variance are lambda...
18 Apr 2018
The probability distribution with Poisson l law that n games have been played on day t is given by the formula:
p = l.exp(-l.t)(l.t)^(n-1)/(n-1)! which is a Gamma law.
With my estimate of l, that yields a 95% confidence that it is between d-27 and d+27, with d best estimated date.
So the current budget is too low and I accept to multiply by 2:
mmKall for 2018-06-05 05:06:20.1: 26.46
Ypercube for 2018-08-16: 25.92
Carroll for 2018-12-05: 33.33
Purgency for 2018-12-25: 38.88
The_Burglar for2018-08-08 08:08:08: 30.98
25 Apr 2018
60K to go.
28 Apr 2018
early congratulations to us all
5 May 2018
-58k and counting
14 May 2018
Looks like 2018-06-05 05:06:20.1 might not be the winning date, but perhaps if I create lots of accounts and games...
;)
14 May 2018
Yes you can try this, as my prediction won't be reached either...
14 May 2018
-56k+
18 May 2018
55k-
18 May 2018
???
26 May 2018
53k
26 May 2018
gamesorrys guess of 2019-01-09 01:01:09 is the clear winning candidate right now
28 May 2018
Thanks for reminding me of Gamesorry,
So the current day budget is ( 2*sqrt(delta)).
The final score will be |budget minus prediction error|
mmKall for 2018-06-05 05:06:20.1: 26.46
Ypercube for 2018-08-16: 25.92
Carroll for 2018-12-05: 33.33
Purgency for 2018-12-25: 38.88
The_Burglar for2018-08-08 08:08:08: 30.98
Gamesorry for 2019-01-09 01:01:09 on2018-03-02: 35.38
30 May 2018
Hopefully everyone (or most) will play all (or most) tournaments in August to celebrate the roman empire
2 Jun 2018
51k to go!
6 Jun 2018
50K
11 Jun 2018
49k
16 Jun 2018
48k exactly to go
16 Jun 2018
i'm changing my guess to 2019-02-01