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Championship 44

Public forum discussion.

#1 · Bill LeBoeuf

1 Mar 2019

An amazing championship with two bots tieing with Daniel for first and Lazy and Shalev apparently missing the cut… Kudos to Simple if you make the cut :)

#3 · Force majeure

1 Mar 2019

Leela's rating and its constant progress is overwhelming...to be honest I don't see a point of leela's participation in championship any more :(

#4 · lazyplayer

1 Mar 2019

Force, actually leela had lost the game with daniel here, but daniel didn't calculate well at the end. I think leela should continue playing. :)

#5 · lazyplayer

1 Mar 2019

Overall I think the bots are very consistent. They are rather good in every position. For us humans instead it depends a lot on luck. In some positions we know what we've to do and in some others we don't. Also in some cases we happen to have the will power and in other cases we do not. I think simpldeep played very well vs me. Arek also played well. I didn't play well at all..

#6 · lazyplayer

1 Mar 2019

Well, maybe I did play well vs shalev, but that's just one game out of 8.

#7 · Bill LeBoeuf

1 Mar 2019

In every game where the Bot goes first we are starting with a theoretically won position, so all we have to do is avoid making mistakes !

#8 · lazyplayer

1 Mar 2019

Bill, yeah, even if only just of sheer luck, someone will manage to win. We only have to get rigtht a few initial stones. ;)

#9 · HappyHippo

2 Mar 2019

The bots are great learning tools. Two things I've noticed is that they tend to prefer the fourth row over the fifth along the short diagonal (during the early game), and that they like combining b5 with the c2 opening (or the equivalent).

Has anyone noticed any other insights from the bots?

#10 · Bill LeBoeuf

2 Mar 2019

Hard to differentiate an insight from a whim :-)

#11 · shalev

3 Mar 2019

I've spent a lot less time on hex since my son was born, which happened pretty early in the tournament. So for most games I only played properly for the first few turns, then played mostly by instinct. The main exception was my game with leela, where I think I was completely lost even before I stopped having time...

Hopefully by the next time I'm in table 1 of the championship I'll be able to give my games the attention they deserve. I've learned that I'm solidly crushed by all top players if I play by instinct (I think people like Daniel manage to play good hex just from their phones, but I'm not able to do that).

Btw, simpledeep is a very good player now, this is not the first time he beat me.

#12 · Bill LeBoeuf

3 Mar 2019

Shalev you lucked out that  JKB didn't play 21.g9  in game 2033225 !

Congratulations on having a son :)

My son is getting married August 10th :)

#14 · Bill LeBoeuf

3 Mar 2019

Shalev in your game 2033222 it looks like your 9.L4 was way out of the way and yes Simpledeep immediately jumped on it !

#15 · mortenand

19 Apr 2019

The championship is finished. Why isn't the next championships started?

#16 · mortenand

19 Apr 2019

Sorry. My bad. There's a couple of games left.

Looking forward to the next tournament.

#18 · Bill LeBoeuf

16 Aug 2019

Arek, it looks like Force would have forced  you nicely by playing 31. J5 followed by h7 :)

#19 · Force majeure

17 Aug 2019

Arek, why is it the best game played (of course, without discussing specific issues, because it's still going)?

Bill, recently I'm more like Force Minor, don't know why few strong players somehow appreciate my game lately :)

#20 · Bill LeBoeuf

17 Aug 2019

Force,the best part is still to come, there are many variations :)

#21 · Bill LeBoeuf

17 Aug 2019

And the board is almost exactly balanced 50/50 (but not quite) :)

#22 · lazyplayer

18 Aug 2019

Bill, come into play, what are you doing! The worst it can happen is that you lose! :D

#23 · lazyplayer

18 Aug 2019

Bill, and if you lose, someone else will win, and aggregate happiness is the same! ;)

#24 · Bill LeBoeuf

18 Aug 2019

I have been very busy with work and family... but your offer is tempting :)

#25 · Force majeure

17 Sep 2019

Could you please share your insights regarding my gamę with simpledeep now? :)

#28 · Arek Kulczycki

18 Sep 2019

So far I've only rushed through it scanning for blunders. First that I would call so is 13.l4

but I'm not saying that it lost the game. The opening might be already white but I don't know these days, bots messed with my head :)

#29 · HappyHippo

18 Sep 2019

I think Force is referring to 2096344 (discussed earlier in the thread), not 2097286

#30 · Bill LeBoeuf

19 Sep 2019

Force, congrats on your well played game with Simple :)

If Simple had played 53.e4 hopefully you would have replied g2 :)

#31 · Force majeure

19 Sep 2019

Thanks Bill. I don't remember all the variants, but I think I would play g2 :)