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Edge templates

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#1 · Greck

1 Mar 2014

Hi there!

I'm cataloging a lot of edge templates I've found by seeing them a lot of times in my games, and by reviewing games by strong players and play a kind of "next move" game ;) Some of them are to be found in David King's page.

My question is, what do you think about naming them? I don't really like the naming in Browne's book (also used in hexwiki), but what's the popular thought about that naming policy?

#2 · shalev

1 Mar 2014

I think a new naming system is not a bad idea. However, you should know that having a large collection of templates is not the best way to improve at Hex. I don't really have many templates memorized - I usually re-derive most of them as I need them. There are also some important connection patterns that don't necessarily qualify as templates:

http://www.trmph.com/hex/board#13,b2b3d3c3g4a3i5c4h7d4g9e4f11f4e13f5f12g5g10h5h8j5i6k4d13l3c13m2b13a2a13a1f13

http://www.trmph.com/hex/board#13,a2b8a4c7a6d6a8e5a9f4a10g3a11h2a12i1a13j1b13k1c13l1d13m1e13

In both cases black is connected. (By the way, these patterns don't continue forever. this is winning for white. Can you see how?)

#4 · Greck

2 Mar 2014

I'm still shocked for that winning for White. And still haven't found the answer. THAT is a cool problem :D

Thanks a lot, Shalev. And please, people, don't spoil the fun ;) I'm still trying, hehehehe (that was not meant for you, Arek.... as long as it's link, I'm free to click on them or not, hehe)

#5 · shalev

2 Mar 2014

Gregorio, Arek's link isn't related to my puzzle. He's just giving an example of a very strange escape.

Arek, that's really cool! I cleaned up the escape to turn it into a puzzle: Black to move and win.

#6 · Greck

2 Mar 2014

ah, ok! great! Now I have two puzzles! :D

#8 · shalev

3 Mar 2014

By the way, this is why the first pattern I mentioned doesn't generalize (white wins in this position).

#10 · Carroll

3 Mar 2014

Hum no after 35.g4 I can't find a continuation.

#12 · shalev

3 Mar 2014

Hahaha, Marius, that's awesome! I never realized this. I guess my template is wrong!

#14 · Greck

3 Mar 2014

Forget about it :P

#16 · Greck

3 Mar 2014

yeah, that's why I said "forget about it", hehehe

#18 · shalev

3 Mar 2014

Carroll, e2 is not the intended first move. It might still work, I didn't check, but there's a much simpler solution. Here's the intended solution: SPOILER

#19 · Carroll

3 Mar 2014

Yes clever, would you say the mediatrice is usually a good way to join two segments?

#20 · Marius Halsor

4 Mar 2014

Good, Shalev, I really didn't find a defence against those moves - glad you agree there were none! :-)

The template works if you reduce the size of the board with one row, though. Then my suggested attack falls just short of connecting, I think.