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Abstract Games League 2023, Dameo tournament.

Public forum discussion.

#2 · Kirin

18 Feb 2023

Hello! This tournament just got started and I'm excited about my first Dameo tournament, thanks for hosting!

I think I'm encountering a bug for all the games where I'm started as white in this tournament: the game starts with a move I didn't make. Fortunately, it's just b1-b3, which is an okay opening, but I didn't choose it. No big deal but I'm a bit concerned that this may be just one effect of a bug. Any ideas?

#3 · Kirin

19 Feb 2023

Hello again, I just watched this bug in action while I was considering moves, playing as black. The browser just suddenly jumped to other games: first a Havannah game, then back to the games list. The auto-moving seems specific to the tournament (though I'm not sure), and so far only in early moves (first few moves).

Just in case someone else gained access to my account, I reset password, but for sure this has affected my openings in the tournament. I'm happy to play things out, but hope the bug can get fixed.

Has anything like this happened to someone else, or it's just affecting my games?

#4 · Kirin

19 Feb 2023

Okay, it's not just this tournament. Even after password reset, the system auto-moved on a game in the infinity tournament. It's a general bug.

It may not even be specific to Dameo. The first instance of phantom action on my behalf was about a week ago when the system resigned me from a Shogi game. I thought maybe I'd done it by mistake, but now it's clearly a general problem.

#5 · Rex Moore

21 Feb 2023

Wow, I've never heard of anything like this!

#6 · Kirin

21 Feb 2023

Yeah, it's as if I have an evil twin making moves from elsewhere. Given that nobody else is seeing the problem, it must be a hacker that somehow gained access to my account.

So now the big problem is that I have no way to kick them out. I can log out local devices but have no way to boot other logins, so even the password change doesn't fix the ongoing "phantom mover" problem.

I did recently install the app on Android, and not too long after, the problem started, so perhaps there's a security issue with the app ecosystem. I've been on LG for years with no hacks before this.

Anyway, apologies for the noise, I won't hijack this thread any further, I just thought it was a tournament issue at first.

#7 · Oakmoss

21 Feb 2023

If it were truly malicious, it seems odd they wouldn't be doing things more frequently and destructively. Is there a possibility moves are being issued and somehow crossing accounts, from someone else in the tournament to you? Is there a pattern to it, like mainly opening moves and resignations? I ask because those are situations where a given instruction and a board position are likely to line up, or at least not conflict--particularly in a tournament where everyone starts together.

My programming knowledge being poor, I have no idea how feasible that is, honestly, but it jumped to mind.

#8 · Ok22

22 Feb 2023

Kirin, as far as I understand, the move is transmitted in the address bar.
Look carefully at what it contains.