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#2 · Judy

11 Jun 2007

Cool!!!

I am tied for 5th for the USA.

#4 · Thierry Wasserman

11 Jun 2007

Oh, and number 11th, Andrew Heath, is there with only 6 games putting him first if he keeps that average. Good going.

#5 · Judy

11 Jun 2007

I think my new goal is to play against other USA members,

and when I am tops in this country, I will work on the rest of the world. :-)

#6 · Karen_R

11 Jun 2007

USA WEST VA HERE jUDY :O))))))))

#7 · KPT

11 Jun 2007

i note that point too thierry (andrew)

yes judy ...i do that the chileanpeople :)

#8 · KPT

11 Jun 2007

BTW THANKS A LOT MOONGOSE!

now we dont have to burn our brain making tables. (chile)

#9 · ypercube

12 Jun 2007

thnx mongoose for the nice table

#13 · MichaeI X

12 Jun 2007

And it's even correct, not only for the first 10!

Really Good Job, mongoose!

Number of games (1..7) is nice additional information as well.

You could do a web app reading the past x games pages via "...egameid=" on the fly. Then we're not stuck to the fixed "last 7" period.

(Just in case you're looking for more challenges and admiration ;-)

#14 · KPT

12 Jun 2007

please!!!!

and if u have more time

u can make a "RANKING BY COUNTRIES"

taking the number of victories by country

(counting 1 point per game No 1 point per people winner on the game)

ej: if there are 5USA winners,1CHI winner , 2NET winners and 2FIN winners

is 1 point to each country ...not 5 or 2.

#15 · Ricardo (Santos)

13 Jun 2007

Waw! Now, I just saw the "top 3 by country" also. Very nice! So, Brazil is currently ranked 23rd! :)

#16 · ypercube

13 Jun 2007

And Aruba has a flag, too :)

Great job, mongoose !

#18 · KPT

17 Jun 2007

Finland is upping on the countries rank.

agggg i want the first place

for first time!!!

congrats fatphil for been in the top ten with only 6 games:|

(i have never seen...a player with 6 on the topten)

#19 · KPT

27 Jun 2007

YES!

Chile on the first place

on the countries rank

#20 · Ricardo (Santos)

27 Jun 2007

Congratulations Chile!!! And Brazil is on 14th place, yeah! ;)

#21 · KPT

29 Jun 2007

great job mongoose

(we have "most 7days titles")

#22 · KPT

12 Jul 2007

Top ten players. (by frequency or successly)

i count only player with more that 100 games.

place/Player/Total(toptenplaces)/Frequency(succesly)/Games Played/LongestStreak

1 Paavo Pirinen 85(44.7%=) 190 11

2 Ed Collins 59 (38.8%) 152 6

3 Pawel Grabowski 49 (33.6%) 146 5

4 Jaakko Pirinen 32 (31.1%) 103 5

5 passenger 56 (30.3%) 185 4

6 Robin 34 (29.6%) 115 3

7 klaashaas 52 (28.3%) 184 5

8 Dustin 45 (27.3%) 165 3

9 anwi 49 (24.0%) 204 3

10 euhuang 32 (23.0%) 139 3

#23 · mongoose

12 Jul 2007

Unfortunately, by only considering those who have played 100 or more games, a clearly successful player will get overlooked. (what if you lower it to 50?)

Having finished in the top-10 37 times, Art Duval has surpassed Jaakko, euhuang, and Robin. Even more impressive is the fact that he achieved it before his 80th game.

Congrats to Art!

#24 · KPT

12 Jul 2007

i can imagine a lot of ways to make a topten.

#26 · Bill Collins

13 Jul 2007

Looks like the all time best list, but where is Thierry? and me! LOL

#27 · KPT

13 Jul 2007

hey guys..it just ONE point of view.

is the effectivity of the games.

(only players with more that 100 games)

come on...i want to see other ranking! any?

#28 · Art Duval

13 Jul 2007

To follow up on mongoose: mongoose *also* has an impressive number of top-10 finishes in a short amount of time: 33/46. This is easily the highest percentage of top-10 finishes, until you get down to folks who have only played 3 times or less. mongoose also has the 2nd longest streak of top-10 finishes, 8, after Paavo's 11.

Bill: Again, looking at the "Top-10 Finishes chart" (from the link at the top of this forum), you are just right behind me, with 36 total top-10 finishes, 9th best overall.

As kpato says, there's lots of ways one could measure success. I personally like the top-10 finishes, because that plays to my strength. I'm much lower ranked in "individual wins", where Bill is much higher, 5th place overall with 10 individual wins.

#29 · slaapgraag

13 Jul 2007

Strange, my best position in the last 7 games is 17th. my overall position in the last 7 games is 16th...

#31 · Bill Collins

13 Jul 2007

I have been working out of town lately and can only play 1 game a week, sometimes 2. So at that rate I'll never make the weekly top ten. Yet two out of the last 3 games I've played I tied for first!

#32 · slaapgraag

16 Jul 2007

even stranger: now with 'movies'i have my 2nd top-10 score and overall i drop to 19....

#33 · Pawel Grabowski

16 Jul 2007

I have a question: In country wins list Poland had 32 wins. When I checked polish players individual wins the sum was 36. Where is mistake?

#34 · mongoose

16 Jul 2007

Among other threads, the list was originally defined by kpato in Wins

by country
. A country can accumulate at most 1 win per game. Poland has placed 1st in 32 of the 210 games played so far.

#36 · KPT

17 Jul 2007

what is GOLF SCORECARD?

#37 · mongoose

17 Jul 2007

http://www.tavislee.com/goe/golfscore.php

The golf scorecard highlights the dedicated players that have participated in all of the last 18 games. Instead of total points, the score is based on summing the places a player has achieved, making lower scores better.

#38 · MichaeI X

18 Jul 2007

Great !

Even showing the topic as tooltip text.

I understand the highlighted fields are the top 10 positions.

Summing the positions is better than summing the scores, which would highly overrate "countries with P" type games.

However, difference between position 61 and 63 counts as much as difference between 1 and 3. (a Polish president would propose a sqare root weighting algorithm)


Unfortunately, I do not even manage to join all of the last 7

#39 · MichaeI X

18 Jul 2007

Just if you're interested: A square root algorithm would not change anything except Thierry moving from third to first! (and Karen dropping one position back)

 (Status after "famous structures")<br/>               sum(sqrt(p))  sum(p)<br/>1  Thierry Wasserman 67.30     343<br/>2  euhuang           69.28     323<br/>3  antkam            72.70     339<br/>4  Paavo Pirinen     74.13     382<br/>5  unsusto           78.63     413<br/>6  Judy              87.03     498<br/>7  KAT               99.66     622<br/>8  12               108.38     706<br/>9  Anton Maslo      112.96     764<br/>10 Randolph King    114.66     798<br/>11 JJ               126.02     921<br/>12 Karen_R          127.07     912<br/>

Congratulations, Thierry !

#40 · Paavo Pirinen

18 Jul 2007

Fantastic statistics. I've been more or less inactive lately, so I haven't commented much, but GoE is going as good as ever and, most notably thanks to mongoose, the community and the game is still developing too. All these new statistics are tugging me back to serious GoE again (not that i'd been totally non serious for more than a couple of rounds, but still...)

As for golf scorecard... positions are way better than scores, yes, but are not perfect either. Square roots have a good point, but another problem with positions is changes in the amount of players. Previously we've used a formula

(position in game) * ( 100 / (# of players in game) )

which might also go

((position in game)-1) * ( 100 / ((# of players in game)-1) )

if we wanted every victory to weigh the same.

Every scoring method has it's weaknesses. Michael mentiones that summing scores overrates "easy" games that give high scores. Yet while this is true, his example "countries that begin with P" proves also the opposite: I missed nine points and scorewise that would be no problem, but losing those nine points dropped me from position one to position 22. Positionwise that round went very badly.

Maybe we'll need an own thread for scroning discussion... again.

#41 · Thierry Wasserman

18 Jul 2007

Thanks.

Must love those square roots :-) [and it made me look up the Polish president reference... you learn something new every day]

I'm pretty impressed with mongoose knocking me from number 1 while having a best score.

I like the golf score card. Seems fairer... and also highlights the fact that most people have either good games or screw up completely.

#42 · KPT

18 Jul 2007

good idea. "summing the positions is better than summing the scores, which would highly overrate "countries with P" type games. "

maybe to apply to the official ranking.

#43 · Ricardo (Santos)

26 Aug 2007

What happened mongoose, to this excellent website?

Just wanted to lift it up again to first level and discovered that something seems wrong with the page.

#44 · KPT

26 Aug 2007

wow , the first game....OLDSCHOOL CONCEPTS.

note that Chile is 3th on the contries ranking

#45 · Ricardo (Santos)

29 Aug 2007

WAW! There is something happening with this web site all the time. Now this new feature Time Machine. It looks really nice, although I don't think I fully understand it yet. Anyway, great job mongoose!

#46 · Art Duval

30 Aug 2007

Time Machine is great!

And I'm finally on the Golf scorecard. :)

#47 · anwi

31 Aug 2007

Great page mongoose! I would add the longest streak to Individual Wins also.

#48 · mongoose

31 Aug 2007

I thought about that, but the longest streak is 3 and only 2 people have ever done it. You will become the 3rd shortly ;-)

#49 · KPT

31 Aug 2007

but is a good stat for the record.

the monsters of GoE

#50 · Ed Collins

10 Sep 2007

I like the recent change to the Golf Scorecard. Good work.

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