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#51 · Looser

6 Apr 2006

I reached 1971 and lost with Havok:/ I lost 1:4 and "20 !!" points :/

#52 · Almaju

21 Apr 2006

Im on 1925, its a really big achievement for me, and a pleasure to join this important and... (taking the words from neptun) exclusive club.

#53 · FIDEL CASTRO

22 Apr 2006

Congrats Almaju. You deserve it! I?ll be waiting you finish our games. :)

#54 · Almaju

22 Apr 2006

Jajaja, yes TONTO, fix all your games on stand by, and we talk later. Maybe i will take 1 or 2 points from your final rating. .-)

#55 · Looser

23 Apr 2006

  • 2001 p_a_k_o

  • 1971 Looser

  • 1939 FC Cwali

  • 1934 Almaju

  • 1931 eldorado

  • 1919 antkam

  • 1916 Nostradamus

  • ~1970 tigis

  • ~1920 jakster

  • ~1920 Matthew

  • ~1910 Luriusz

Anybody know how many points tigis, jakster, Matthew and Luriusz reached precise?

#56 · Looser

23 Apr 2006

And maybe You know who else reached 1900?

#58 · Jarug

23 Apr 2006

  • 2001 p_a_k_o

  • 1971 Looser

  • 1942 FCGerard'91

  • 1939 FC Cwali

  • 1934 Almaju

  • 1931 eldorado

  • 1919 antkam

  • 1916 Nostradamus

  • ~1970 tigis

  • ~1920 jakster

  • ~1920 Matthew

  • ~1910 Luriusz

#59 · Looser

23 Apr 2006

Jarug is me as You can see. :P

So thanks Gerard and sorry that I forgot about You but You didnt glory it in this topic :]

#60 · neptun

27 Apr 2006

I reached 1942 on 31 of march :-)

#61 · Looser

27 Apr 2006

How could I forget about You! :) Sorry my friend.

  • 2001 p_a_k_o

  • 1971 Looser

  • 1942 neptun

  • 1942 FCGerard'91

  • 1939 FC Cwali

  • 1934 Almaju

  • 1931 eldorado

  • 1919 antkam

  • 1916 Nostradamus

  • ~1970 tigis

  • ~1920 jakster

  • ~1920 Matthew

  • ~1910 Luriusz

#62 · tigis

28 Apr 2006

I reached exact 1965 on 13 of march :-)

#63 · Looser

28 Apr 2006

Why there isnt function of editing posts? I could have done only some corrections without writing the new one.

tigis only 1965? Looking at your rating chart, I think it was about 1970 :)

  • 2001 p_a_k_o

  • 1971 Looser

  • 1965 tigis

  • 1942 neptun

  • 1942 FCGerard'91

  • 1939 FC Cwali

  • 1934 Almaju

  • 1931 eldorado

  • 1919 antkam

  • 1916 Nostradamus

  • ~1920 jakster

  • ~1920 Matthew

  • ~1910 Luriusz

#64 · Enrico

30 Apr 2006

Can I join the club too? I reached 1909 today, after beating Looser (thanks!) :)

#65 · Burton

22 May 2006

I have first time over 1900 (1908).

Burton.

#66 · matjazo

18 Dec 2006

I reached 1904 yesterday for the first time, but only for a short time. I'll be back. :-)

#67 · David

5 Jan 2007

I managed to reach 1903 today. Not sure how long it is going to last, but it's been nice to finally climb over the 1900 mark.

#68 · Alan

6 Jan 2007

Finally made it! 1906 Thanks for that last minute miss David, that was tense

:-)

#69 · David

6 Jan 2007

you're welcome Alan, hope you can return the favour soon. :-)

#70 · strizz

22 Jan 2007

1902. I am down in none of the games I have open right now.

#71 · bloke

18 Mar 2007

Alan has 1927 now. myself, by the way, 1904 :-)

#72 · bloke

18 Mar 2007

Temporary breakout from mediocrity: I reached 1924 for the first (and probably the last) time. There are imminent losses and some nice wins coming down the road -- I will surely drop some 100 points in the next couple days.

#73 · bloke

18 Mar 2007

The All-Time Top 20 (or so)

\* 2014 tigis

\* 2001 p_a_k_o

\* 1971 Looser

\* 1968 Almaju

\* 1961 To_NiE_On

\* 1942 neptun

\* 1942 FCGerard'91

\* 1939 FC Cwali

\* 1931 eldorado

\* 1927 Alan

\* 1924 bloke

\* 1924 mojito1

\* 1919 antkam

\* 1916 Nostradamus

\* 1909 Enrico

\* 1908 Peter Burton

\* 1907 sawek

\* 1904 matjazo

\* 1903 David (SLO)

\* 1902 strizz

The exact rangking is not certain

\* ~1955 Michal Piszczalka(piszczyk)

\* ~1920 jakster

\* ~1920 Matthew

\* ~1915 Kubrick

\* ~1910 Luriusz

Almost reached the 1900+ Club:

\* 1895 Grom_pl_Pedro

\* 1878 Root Beer

\* 1871 ypercube

\* 1910 Luriusz

Whoever is left out -- speak for yourself! :-)

#74 · bloke

19 Mar 2007

I would say that 1951 is definitely the maximum for a while. A combination of good luck, stellar play, and some selectivity in finishing the games is the recipe :-)

#75 · Batman

19 Mar 2007

I'm at 1893 which is my highest ever. It looks to be temporary as I'm about to lose a game.

No game manipulation here.

#76 · Batman

19 Mar 2007

Ok, Now I'm at 1909.

#77 · bloke

21 Mar 2007

The Updated All-Time Top 25 (or so)

\* 2014 tigis

\* 2001 p_a_k_o

\* 1971 Looser

\* 1968 Almaju

\* 1968 To_NiE_On

\* 1951 bloke

\* 1948 Drago

\* 1942 neptun

\* 1942 FCGerard'91

\* 1939 FC Cwali

\* 1931 eldorado

\* 1929 mojito1

\* 1927 Alan

\* 1919 antkam

\* 1919 Batman

\* 1917 sawek

\* 1916 Nostradamus

\* 1909 Enrico

\* 1909 Grom_pl_Pedro

\* 1908 Peter Burton

\* 1906 FC Szczebrzeszynianka

\* 1904 matjazo

\* 1903 David (SLO)

\* 1902 spl

\* 1902 strizz

The exact ranking is not certain

\* ~2020 tigis

\* ~1975 FCGerard'91

\* ~1955 Michal Piszczalka(piszczyk)

\* ~1925 jakster

\* ~1920 Matthew

\* ~1915 Kubrick

\* ~1910 Luriusz

Almost reached the 1900+ Club:

\* ~1892 anwi

\* ~1885 Petr Trojek

\* 1878 Root Beer

\* ~1877 R Pardoe

\* 1875 _meanless_

\* 1871 ypercube

#78 · Marius Halsor

21 Mar 2007

"Almost" reached 1900+ club doesn't sound like a very prestigous club. However, if it WAS, I'd have to point out that I've been above 1875 too :-)

#79 · Marius Halsor

21 Mar 2007

"Almost" reached 1900+ club doesn't sound like a very prestigous club. However, if it WAS, I'd have to point out that I've been above 1875 too :-)

#80 · bloke

21 Mar 2007

The "almost reached" is mentioned because we have no exact figures without reporting by the players themselves. Who knows, perhaps that "~1889" is actually above 1900? ...

So exactly how much is that "above 1875" that you have reached? :-)

#81 · Marius Halsor

21 Mar 2007

Not much. Looking at my graph, I'd say around 1880.

However, it should be rather easy to view the players graphs and see if they have ever exceeded 1900 or not, as the graphs draw a line for every 25 rating points.

#82 · Marius Halsor

21 Mar 2007

I just checked, and I boasted about my rating in another thread. Thus, I can state that it was 1879. Again, I have a much lower rating now, but hope I one day can join the REAL 1900+ club.

#83 · Steven Pedlow

21 Mar 2007

My peak was 1899, but it was in the middle of a competition, so it was definitely not a stable point.

#84 · David

21 Mar 2007

For the sake of keeping the records, I have now actually made it three times over the 1900 limit and my peak was 1952 for a brief period of time.

#85 · bloke

22 Mar 2007

This club works basically on a self-reporting basis, so thanks Steven and David.

The whole thread started with lvf123 reaching 1900+ but it was never mentioned what was his/her highest ranking. Any idea anyone?

Batman now has a respectable 1927 rating, his highest ever, which he reached not by "game manipulating" but simply using the innocent and frequently used technique of postponing the final move in a lost game.

Welcome also to the club of selective game finishers :-)

#86 · FatPhil

22 Mar 2007

Personally, I view postponing the last move of a lost game to be ratings manipulation.

If the game's practically over, just finish it, and stop trying to play silly buggers with your rating.

#87 · bloke

22 Mar 2007

Well the current leader of the rankings, tonieon (PL) is losing a game 3-0 with 10 minutes after halftime. The more goals he gets, the slower he moves. Is that not understandable?

Is the protestant ethic of punishing yourself with bad news really that much stronger at this game site than the catholic ethic of basking in fame for a couple days and then pay for it?

I don't think so. I would rather call it hypocrisy.

#88 · MichaeI X

22 Mar 2007

Whoever is interested in topics like "1900+ club" is highly tempted to do "selective game finishing".

Perhaps I did not get it (yet), but there's not too much strategy in streetsoccer, compared to other board games. And due to the random factor, it's less the single game which counts, but some long term strategy and an overall performance.

So, you not only have the choice where to move on the board, but also when, within your 240 h range. And if that's part of your streetsoccer strategy, bad luck for your opponent. Hopefully he runs an opposite strategy (lose quickly, win later, which sometimes gives a higher total rating, especially if he's the one to win against someone's pushed temporary rating ;)

Using vacation days selectively (i.e. continue some games but use vacation days to postpone others even more) is sure beyond what is meant by "vacation".

And, another clarification, for those without the goal to reach temporary rating peaks (like me myself), streetsoccer is fun because its quick.

#89 · FatPhil

22 Mar 2007

It's not protestant anything, it's not catholic anything, it's simply a matter of playing the game for the game itself, and not for ephemeral ratings.

Where do you see me saying that one should "punish yourself with bad news"? Where is my hypocrisy? That's a strong word to throw about without any reason.

#90 · FC Malaj

22 Mar 2007

i think "hypocrisy" was a response to the "silly bugger" label. both strong phrases to throw about -- especially "bugger" which originally means "sodomite" and "heretic".

not that i subscribe to cultural determinist arguments, but it is true, for example, that Almaju, from Catholic Mexico, keeps postponing his move. i have no problem with that at all, it is fun playing with him and discussing the effects of global warming in the meantime :-) i was also only smiling when in two games running with Batman he finished the one in which he was winning, and postponed his last move in the one he was losing.

i agree with michael x that this is part of the game playing strategy in easy and fun games like streetsoccer.

#91 · FatPhil

22 Mar 2007

"to play silly buggers" is an idiomatic verbal phrase which has nothing to do with sodomy. Like "to mess about" has nothing to do with making a mess or creating disorder. If anything, "playing silly buggers" is a weaker and less weighty phrase than "messing about". To an English ear, anyway.

Anyway, your not finding the sentence where I say that one should "punish yourself with bad news" has been noted.

#92 · Batman

23 Mar 2007

I did not get my 1927 rating by postponing the last move of a game. That is simply untrue. I played my games as they came in the queue.

I am guilty of withholding the last move of one game to enjoy the 1927 rating for a few more hours but I finished that game before I ever finished any other game. It was never used to artificially enhance my ratings. To suggest otherwise is a slight to me. I feel very strongly about this and would never use this tactic to boost my rating.

#93 · MichaeI X

23 Mar 2007

Batman "never used to artificially enhance my ratings" except "for a few more hours"

Granted ;=)

Hope you truly enjoy the feeling.

And you're still > 1900!

I understand member of the 1900+ club is everybody who ever reached it "once or more" (see first entry of this thread). A lifetime award!

Perhaps I try to get that feeling myself. Not sure if just postponing the end of lost games is enough for me, but see how I try to reach the 1600 barrier ;)

#94 · Batman

23 Mar 2007

I reached my highest rating ever after over three years of playing on this site and I get accusations instead of accolades. My rating was earned the right way; by playing well and winning some tough games. I never delayed a game to finish some other games first to give myself an artificially high rating. I don't understand what the difference is between logging out for a few hours before finishing a game so that my rating doesn't drop ten seconds after earning it and logging out for any other reason. As soon as I logged back on again I finished that game before I ever played a single move in any other SS game.

I stand behind my 1927 rating as earned without any ratings manipulation whatsoever. If I happen to get a higher rating it will be done, again, without any form of manipulation.

#95 · bloke

23 Mar 2007

In other words, being a member of the 1900+ Club is not only about reaching just a number, but a Milestone, with capital M. It is not a mundane affair but seemingly an emotionally charged one. "Silly bugger", "hypocrite", "artificial enhancement", "boosting rating" are not examples of neutral use of words. Hard work, righteousness, merit -- these are the solemn concepts attached to the way 1900+ Club membership is reached.

There is no sense of irony and relativity -- come on, this 1900+ Club membership is fun, just like the game itself, not a serious business :-)

#96 · Steven Pedlow

28 Mar 2007

1901 is my new peak. I'm tied in 5 games and ahead in the 6th of my 6 active games so hopefully, I'll be able to stay.

#97 · bloke

2 Apr 2007

Some update, only the recent 1900+ results, the full list can be compiled later by anyone:

\* 1978 FCGerard'91 (to be confirmed, but 1930 right now)

\* 1955 mojito1 (to be confirmed, but 1948 is for sure)

\* 1952 David (self-reported, seems correct)

\* 1941 Alan (to be confirmed, but 1931 is for sure)

\* 1927 Batman (no ratings manipulation whatsoever :-)

\* 1918 FC Szczebrzeszynianka (freefall projected)

\* 1917 sawek (a little drop is likely)

\* 1909 Grom pl Pedro (at 1900 with zero games left)

\* 1909 meanguy (with 11 games running, it can go anywhere)

\* 1907 Kubrick (likely to stay put)

\* 1901 Steven Pedlow (close games, tensions rise)

\* 1894 Phlegm (will break into the Club soon)

\* 1879 Marius Halsør (will not break into the Club soon)

long live silly buggers! :-)

#98 · bloke

2 Apr 2007

\* 1932 meanguy (up and coming)

#99 · antkam

3 Apr 2007

as of this moment (april 03, 2007, 5:11pm boston time), the top ten players are all 19xx, the 10th place belonging to FCGerard'91 at 1909. indeed, the top 12 players are all 19xx, with 12th place Grom pl Pedro at 1900 exactly. this is the first time i have seen it happen.

congrats to all the players involved!

IIRC, it was around early 2005 when we reached the milestone of top ten players all 18xx. it has taken 2+ years for the group to move up 100 pts. whether this is due to having many more players (therefore wider spread), or ratings inflation (bad players leaving therefore increasing the average), or both, i do not know.

watch for the next exciting milestone around mid 2009, when top ten will cross 2000+ threshold! (but before that, someone will probably cross the 21xx threshold first...)

#100 · eldorado

5 Apr 2007

According to my rating chart i reached 1950+ level in 2006 Oct or Nov.

Just before few hours i was certainly at 1942.

It's a weak point of this site that there's no player stats for max/min level of rating and date reached. I think it's very easy to implement and it means only hundreds of kBytes for db extension which is definitely not crucial.

We should call upon webmaster to do it, kindly of course ;-)

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