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#101 · bloke

6 Apr 2007

\* 1951 eldorado (but 1942 is for sure)

I agree with eldorado that it would be nice to have these player stats with maximum rating reached -- although it is definitely more interesting in StreetSoccer than in any of the other games due to the high number of players and matches played. In other games it is less significant.

And antkam, I believe the next milestone of the top ten being over 2000 will be earlier, probably as early as the end of this year.

#102 · bloke

11 Apr 2007

\* 1961 To_NiE_On (approaching his/her personal best)

#103 · bloke

17 Apr 2007

\* 1937 Batman (seems to top out here, but maybe can catch Krzysztof)

\* 1933 David (come on, you can be better :-)

\* 1919 Steven Pedlow (two very tight games left against the top of the crop)

\* 1914 Kubrick (slowly but steadily)

#104 · Steven Pedlow

23 Apr 2007

10.1.1 was very kind to me; now at 1923 between competitions ("a fair rating"). I don't expect I will continue to be as lucky.

#105 · bloke

9 May 2007

\* 1925 Steven Pedlow

\* 1924 sawek

any other new personal bests?

#106 · Burton

9 May 2007

I'm second time over 1900.

Now 1926.

#107 · bloke

14 May 2007

new personal bests

\* 1984 To_NiE_On

\* 1936 sawek

\* 1930 Steven Pedlow

\* 1926 Peter 'Burton' Chovanec

corrections welcome

#108 · bloke

20 May 2007

\* 1984 To_NiE_On -- will reach 2000 if postpones his losing game against me :-)

nah, no ratings manipulation

#109 · bloke

24 May 2007

\* 1996 To_NiE_On (it seems that even if his loss against me would not stop him reaching 2000 :-)

\* 1952 Looser (approaching his personal best -- with this nick)

\* 1938 Steven Pedlow (if i remember well)

\* 1932 steve1964 (skyrocketing)

#110 · neptun

25 May 2007

finally I reached a new personal record

1948 :

#111 · bloke

27 May 2007

excellent news. but, wow, it took a whole year for neptun to surpass his previous personal best -- will i have to wait 10 more months to reach 1952?

#112 · Burton

28 May 2007

I reached my new personal record 1934.

#113 · Burton

28 May 2007

I increace my personal record: 1943

#114 · neptun

29 May 2007

good news for bloke : after a short trip under 1900 I start to increase my record again : now ______________1965_______________

#115 · bloke

30 May 2007

verification needed:

\* 200x To_NiE_On (reached a peak between 2004 and 2010 but it is not sure from the graph

\* 1968 neptun (this might still increase a bit)

#116 · Burton

30 May 2007

I increace my personal record again: 1956

#117 · Burton

30 May 2007

And another litte increase - 1970

#118 · bloke

31 May 2007

amazing developments: neptun and burton are marching towards 2000 in a very convincing manner, dethroning To_NiE_On

new personal records:

\* 1990 neptun

\* 1970 Peter 'Burton' Chovanec

\* 1940 Looser (although it is not a personal record, Looser is coming fast too)

eleven (11) players are above 1900 right now (including myself with a local peak of 1934)

#119 · FC Malaj

31 May 2007

With a lucky spell I reached 1905 temporarily, with no serious ranking drop in sight

#120 · muggel_b

5 Jun 2007

With a humble bow I enter this room: actually at 1906 :-)

#121 · Looser

7 Jun 2007

Club 1900

RankingPlayer's nickCountry2014tigis2009To_Nie_On2001p_a_k_o1990neptun1978FCGerard'911974Looser1970Peter 'Burton' Chovanec1968Almaju1955mojito11952David1951bloke1951eldorado1948Drago1941Alan1939FC Cwali1938Steven Pedlow1937Batman1936sawek1934Peter 'Burton' Chovanec1932meanguy1932steve19641925jakster1920Matthew1919antkam1918FC Szczebrzeszynianka1916muggel_b1916Nostradamus1914Kubrick1910Luriusz1909Enrico1909Grom_pl_Pedro1905FC Malaj1904matjazo1902spl1902strizz

#122 · Looser

7 Jun 2007

The newest ranking. I finally beat my previous best ranking and achieved 1974.

I update ranking all the time in my profile but for those who hasn't javascript on input here and will input sometimes after some changes.

PS: If you have better informations about ranks of players or yourself tell here.

#123 · bloke

16 Jun 2007

excellent copy-paste, Looser.

my best ranking, for awhile, will remain at 1961. which means i broke the previous record within a month :-)

#124 · bloke

16 Jun 2007

omg, i just had a hat trick against neptun which catapulted my ranking to 1989. so this one is for the record books.

#125 · bloke

16 Jun 2007

make it 2013. exceptional day.

#126 · bloke

17 Jun 2007

i reached 2019 for a new StreetSoccer record.

experience shows that over 2000 a regular 5-0 win brings only 1-5 points while a 4-1 victory brings or takes 1 point depending on the opponent's ranking. a tie or a loss results in a serious drop in the rankings, just watch the freefall.

#127 · bloke

17 Jun 2007

it is official: 2020

#128 · p_a_k_o

17 Jun 2007

pff bloke another passenger experiment. Many special unfinished games. Your record won't be count ;]

#129 · bloke

17 Jun 2007

i guess we need a rule to filter out experiments. firenze proposed a rule on that if i remember.

\* 2020 bloke

\* 2014 tigis

\* 2009 To_Nie_On

\* 2001 p_a_k_o

\* 1990 neptun

\* 1989 Looser

\* 1978 FCGerard'91

\* 1970 Peter 'Burton' Chovanec

\* 1968 Almaju

\* 1955 mojito1

\* 1952 David

\* 1951 eldorado

\* 1948 Drago

\* 1941 Alan

\* 1939 FC Cwali

\* 1938 Steven Pedlow

\* 1937 Batman

\* 1936 sawek

\* 1934 Peter 'Burton' Chovanec

\* 1932 meanguy

\* 1932 steve1964

\* 1925 jakster

\* 1920 Matthew

\* 1919 antkam

\* 1918 FC Szczebrzeszynianka

\* 1916 muggel_b

\* 1916 Nostradamus

\* 1914 Kubrick

\* 1910 Luriusz

\* 1909 Enrico

\* 1909 Grom_pl_Pedro

\* 1908 bachkiesel

\* 1905 FC Malaj

\* 1904 matjazo

\* 1902 spl

\* 1902 strizz

#130 · bloke

17 Jun 2007

not that i wanted -- it is 2022 now.

#131 · FC Malaj

18 Jun 2007

This looks like a monologue, a personalized forum topic now. But otherwise bloke deserves the credit -- I had my lucky run myself when I reached 1905. You can't help against a lucky run -- but why would you?

#132 · Looser

18 Jun 2007

Especially You shouldn't say anything. Why? I will tell You why.

I analized your games with bloke. First strange is that you can play faster with him than me but this is ok I can understand that you can prefer play with him first. Second and this I'm wondering specially. Your moves in games with bloke were really strange and suspicious. I don't know if they were your mistakes or intended. I can't tell that but one is sure, you really can play better.

Examples:

  1. 719377 - moves number 18, 22, 26, 36, 40
  2. 715945 - moves number 7, 17, 21
  3. 714382 - moves number 31, 43, 59, 61, 63
  4. 696270 - moves number 28, 38, 48
  5. 701902 - this is still unfinished - moves number 39, 43, 47
  6. 730088 - this is still unfinished - move number 5
  7. 721494 - this is still unfinished - move number 13, 15

I wanna believe you were playing drunk or sth but even really weak players doesn't make such horrible faults playing. You are very good and experienced player and I don't remember situation when you didn't score if you had opportunity to do it or let me score in such easy way.

So maybe first explain me this, and then tell about lucky run of bloke.

#133 · FC Malaj

18 Jun 2007

As I said, I had my lucky run - it was against neptun who won 7-6 in our 13 matches but I earned more points. We played online and pretty fast, the games were over in 10 minutes. I had a similar batch of rapid games against bloke and this time I was on the losing side - he did not even win too much points against me. You were not online at that time, so that is why I did not play my matches against you. But I do not think there is much to explain, if you play rapid games you make more mistakes. In rapid games you might seem weaker. Shit happens.

Nevertheless, I checked some of the moves you picked meticulously. Honestly, I do not see any of those as causing a fatal change in the flow of the game. In certain cases, especially when I rolled ones, it was basically meaningless to decide were to move - the next kick was a certain goal. No impact factor at all.

So I believe you have overreacted something that is insignificant really.

#134 · p_a_k_o

18 Jun 2007

hahahahaha what a cheater :) For me Malaj, Bloke, Firenze and other Butan flag nicks are the same person who makes games between them to rise ratings(especially Bloke now). Weak player who has 2000 rating, lol :D

#135 · FC Malaj

18 Jun 2007

Whatever you think. I could just as well say that all Poles are the same person and they help each other to reach 2000 one after the other. Saw and sawek are both in the first division playing against each other "a suspicious game" by Looser's standards. I could also say that To_Nie_On, mojito, FC Szczebrzeszynianka, Looser, and you are the same person - prove the opposite.

But what is the point? Jumping up and down screaming that the other player is "weak"? This is boring for me, sorry.

#136 · bloke

18 Jun 2007

i guess this is all about the flags, lots of polish flags :-)

Club 1900

RankingPlayer's nickCountry2020bloke2014tigis2009To_Nie_On2001p_a_k_o1990neptun1989Looser1978FCGerard'911970Peter 'Burton' Chovanec1968Almaju1964eldorado1955mojito11952David1948Drago1941Alan1939FC Cwali1938Steven Pedlow1937Batman1936sawek1934Peter 'Burton' Chovanec1932meanguy1932steve19641925jakster1920Matthew1919antkam1918FC Szczebrzeszynianka1916muggel_b1916Nostradamus1914Kubrick1910Luriusz1909Enrico1909Grom_pl_Pedro1908bachkiesel1905FC Malaj1904matjazo1902spl1902strizz

#137 · Looser

18 Jun 2007

You said that you don't see anything wrong in those moves which I mentioned? Really? Maybe we looked at different games. Look at them once more especially at the moves which are bold.

Game 714382 - move 43 - you didn't score but you have enough eyes to do it.

Game 696270 - move 38 and 48 - you let bloke score twice despite you could easly block

Game 701902 - move 47 - you could score but you didn't

Game 730088 - move 5 - again! you could score but you didn't

Game 721494 - move 13 - you could block but you didn't

Sorry, one time it could happen but you didn't score 3 times in 3 different matches in short term!! (As I remember I miss the occasion to score 1 time in my whole carrier in over 5000 matches). And you said it's okey? I don't know if you are bloke or not. But surely you let him reach the barrier 2000.

BTW You didn't mentioned blablabla, czarek, gromplpedro, Krzysztof, anwi, Luriusz, Adam Malysz etc...

#138 · bloke

18 Jun 2007

come on, in the span between 1961 and 2013 i had four victories against neptun and three against FC Malaj (and one each against matjazo, jose.ibiza, perugia etc.). they both played online and both lost in rapid games. would you also challenge neptun and the others for the same "suspicious" play?

#139 · FC Malaj

18 Jun 2007

I said I checked some of them but did not find anything fatally wrong with those moves I saw. But I am willing to admit that I made mistakes in these five you mentioned - except for Game 721494 - move 13 where it does not matter if I move to d2 or d4.

So what next?

#140 · Looser

18 Jun 2007

It doesn't matter with whom you played or with whom you won. Did you look at those games though? Those moves which I pointed. You really see anything? Hey guys, am I stupid or sth? Look at those bold moves again and tell me why FC Malaj didn't score 3 times (714382, 701902, 730088) and didn't block you (696270, 721494) This is 5 matches, not

  1. 719377 - moves number 18, 22, 26, 36, 40
  2. 715945 - moves number 7, 17, 21
  3. 714382 - moves number 31, 43, 59, 61, 63
  4. 696270 - moves number 28, 38, 48
  5. 701902 - this is still unfinished - moves number 39, 43, 47
  6. 730088 - this is still unfinished - move number 5
  7. 721494 - this is still unfinished - move number 13, 15

How many times you didn't score because you didn't notice that you have an opportunity? Believe me he always scores with me.

PS: if you copy/paste the html code, first remove all those <_br_> tags then there won't be white space above.

#141 · Looser

18 Jun 2007

@FC Malaj: You can kick the ball to the corner.

Nevermind

#142 · firenze

20 Jun 2007

couple years ago i proposed a rule that only those players will be an "official" member of the +1800 or +1900 etc. clubs who have reached that level three times without dropping 150 points below the +1800 or +1900 plateau in between (that is, to 1650 or 1750).

so if someone reaches 2022 points does not qualify him/her an "official" member in the +2000 club (which, by the way, does not yet have an "official" member).

but if having a series of lucky turn of events combined with a selective finishing of the running games catapults someone to a high ranking disqualifies someone from the top of the list of highest rankings (which is only an informative list, anyway) then p_a_k_o and To_Nie_On should also not boast a +2000 top result, maybe even the consensus superstar tigis should not have an official +2000 ranking, and neptun should not have a 1990 ranking, etc.

likewise, nostradamus' 1916 was also stigmatized as yet another "passenger experiment" but he could keep his ranking, unlike passenger

it seems that there are lots of examples of applying double-standards here

#143 · bloke

9 Jul 2007

lets get back to normal reporting mode. here are the new personal records of the past two weeks i noticed:

\* 1962 jakster

\* 1925 Kubrick

\* 1924 Nevermind

\* 1917 matjazo (who actually had this record earlier)

c 1914 Grom pl Pedro (another earlier record that went unnoticed)

and

\* 2022 bloke

#145 · bloke

16 Jul 2007

new personal records of the past week i noticed:

\* 1965 Grom_pl_Pedro

\* 1923 matjazo

\* 1908 strizz

\* 1903 bachkiesel

i do not have exact figures for these players:

\* 191x dopplefunker

\* 190x TnT

\* 190x Manou

#146 · Arsenal

17 Jul 2007

Here I am. Finally I have reached 1900 with 23 games outstanding.

#147 · bloke

19 Jul 2007

new personal records:

\* 1965 Grom_pl_Pedro (with lots of help)

\* 1913 Arsenal (with determination)

#148 · bloke

31 Jul 2007

new personal records, if i did not miss something:

\* 1973 Grom_pl_Pedro

\* 1935 steve1964

\* 1925 dopplefunker

\* 1920 bachkiesel

make corrections wherever necessary

#149 · TnT

31 Jul 2007

I made it to 1908. I had one game outstanding and was leading, but managed to lose it anyway. Would have been cool to be 1900+ with no games.

#150 · bloke

2 Aug 2007

congrats

\* 1908 TnT

\* 1906 Manou

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