GO and olympics

i once read that GO will be part of the olympics this year...

what about it?

is thar true, where can i see the games or results?

by the way, puerto rico beat the united states pretty bad at basketball.

viva puerto rico!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Go is not part of the Olympic Games. Neither is chess, bridge, or any other board or card game. And I doubt any of those games will ever be part of the Olympic Games.

bridge was a demostration sport at the salt lake city winter olympics. fide (chess), fmjd (draughts), wbf (bridge), igf (go) are all ioc recognized international sports federations. for a complete list see http://www.agfisonline.com/en/members.phtml

Actually, go isn't listed as a Olympic recognized sport at

http://www.olympic.org/uk/sports/recognized/index_uk.asp. Of

course, being recognized by the Olympic committee doesn't mean there's any chance of it ever becoming part of the Olympic games. There will never be any motorized sports at the Olympic games, but the list contains motorized sports.

The tendency of the IOC is to reduce the number of sports and the number of events to keep the games manageble instead of adding more sports. Chess, bridge, go, etc aren't interesting enough - neither in number of participants world-wide, nor commercially. And they are a far cry from the Olympic motto "Citius, Altius, Fortius" (Faster, Higher, Stronger).

Actually chess has it's own Olympiad.

even though being recognized as a sport by the ioc doesnt say much about chances of becoming olympic, not being recognized means the chances are 0.0%

do you really think chess, go or bridge are less interesting - in number of participants and commercially - as lets say fencing or curling?

I know that International Go Federation is trying to become part of the Olympiad, it's one of the main goals. They already asked this and the problem is studied. A proposal was to add go to the Winter Olmpic Games.

Autumn, long nice evenings near to fire with board and stones! ;)

Having your own "olympiad" doesn't mean much. I can organise a blueberry pie making contest, and call it the "Blueberry Olympiad", but that doesn't mean there's any chance baking blueberry pies is going to be part of the Olympic games.

One of the big differences between fencing and curling is that both fencing and curling are already part of the Olympic games. Sure, curling has been away for a while, but there's more room during the winter games than during the summer games (but since the winter games only have sports that use either snow or ice, no chance for go or chess there).

Beside that, I do believe that both fencing and curling are commercially more interesting. There's a lot more action, specially with fencing. Broadcasting corporations aren't going to pay hundreds of millions of dollars to see a bunch of people moving wood or hitting stones.

on the contrary, there is a lot more money in chess or go than in e.g curling. besides that, bridge has already been a demonstration sport at the olympics. and every olympics new sports and disciplines are added. the international federations just need to keep their voices heard and wait for the olympics to happen in a country where their sport is popular. if they push hard go could have a chance to become demonstration sport in beijing in 4 years

What does that mean "there is a lot more money in chess or go than in e.g curling"? That there are sponsors with bigger pockets? That may be true, but that doesn't mean it's commercially more interesting to add those games to the Olympics.

> and every olympics new sports and disciplines are added.

No new sports have been added this year. The latest new sports were added in 2000, Taekwondo and Triathlon. Just like all other sports at the Olympics, quite physical.

womens sabre was added this year. many tv stations mustve been willing to pay millions of dollars for that and are broadcasting it live right now.

i'd say after having bridge as demostration sport in salt lake city its about time some more less physical sports are added, but i guess you just dont want mindsports at the olympics.

Womens sabre isn't a new sport - it's a fencing event and fencing has been part of the Olympic Games since 1896.

> i guess you just dont want mindsports at the olympics.

It's doesn't matter what I want. I'm just giving reasons why I think it will never be added.

I could find no evidence that bridge was a demonstration sport in Salt Lake City. Not on the website of the Olympic Games, not on the site of the organisation that's pushing bridge to become an Olympic sport, and not on a google search.

There was a bridge event in Salt Lake City during the same period the Olympic Games were held there. A yearly tournament, normally held in the offices of the IOC in Lausanne was now held in Salt Lake City. But it wasn't a demonstration sport.

I heard that one challenge with having Go at the Olympics is that coffee (not sure about coca-cola like drinks) may be considered "illegal substance" at the Olympics.

Decaf isn't a problem, and neither is one or two cups. But drinking too much caffeinated coffee will raise the caffeine level above levels that are considering to be doping. Drinking too much coke might be a problem too - OTOH, some cyclists do drink coke during, or right after, stages in the Tour de France, and I haven't heard any of them getting problems with it.

It would be interesting to make a "mind" olympics game in addition to "body" olympics game. The olympics should be in between the "body" olympics game and repeated every 4 years. The downside of this is lesser events that can be competed

Don't forget that there is a Mind Sports Olympiad annually - and it started yesterday!

Sorin: I think it is not against coffee, but against it that in go we have not any antidopping controls.

Budi: Mind olympiad has to be autumn! ;) (or spring? :)

Budi: lesser events? I can think on much more board games than sports...

i haven't heard (probably forgot) the mind olympiad.

There are more board games than sports. However, those board games are just merely based on luck (mostly) more than skill. Well problaly that's one of the advantage, everybody can win. Some board game (like go, chess, shogi) depends on more skill than others.

Just an opinion. If all board games (assume), are allowed in the olympiad, there will be indefinite amount of players (since luck are indetermine and can't be acquired). Skill in other hand must be acquired like "body" sports. What i meant by "lesser events", is events that required skills (but i don't disagree with luck plays part in those game).

Maybe a way to increase those event is by adding groups: men and women (both individuals and team), and pair go. However, a player that takes part in one event (eg. individuals) can't take part in other events (pairs / team)

Spring? Fall? That's maybe a hard questions. probably Fall would be the best ^^, and my birthday is in Fall too (northern hemisphere)

well, I was just talking about abstract board games, with no luck. Even with this restriction, there are a lot of games! Anyway it would have very little mediatic impact to see two people playing Pente, or two others playing Abalone... but I think it would be great!!!

... Maybe it is hard to make the mind olympiad that will be supported by many countries (not individuals). The action of those games is not visible ^^ (most ppl find it boring to see 2 ppl sit face each other in from of the board).

yep! most of the bloody battles are just played in the variations in the mind of the players, not in the board :)

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