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7 Apr 2013
It is, in my experience, at least!
What do you, fellow Littlebgolemners, think?
I've always perceived I had an excluding difference from my comrades at school. As an adult, I came to think it might have something to do with the way I think. I passed the Mensa test which confirmed I had the capacity to enter their club and that I have indeed a sort of "diformitiy": I am "overIQed"
My belief is that this fact doesn't say that I am more clever than my contemporaries. If I have achievements above average in math and logic it doesn't make me a genius. The most notable part of this fact is that I freak people out in some way and that commuicating with regular people is a pain. (Professionally, it is also a source of trouble.)
I wanted to raise the subject for some time here because it is probably one reason I feel confortabable at LG. For some reason I think that I share the IQ-syndrom with most of you.
Today I do launch the theme because I will be interviewed on tuesday for swiss TV on this subject (the consequences of High IQ in adult life).
Some of you may have a message I could pass to the world through swiss TV :)
7 Apr 2013
how can actually measure my IQ?
i mean, there is a lot of stupid internet test or iphone apps.
Do u know some official source?
does MENSA have something in their website?
7 Apr 2013
I believe MENSA organize public tests regularily. For me it was some years ago, at a university, but open to anyone.
The test is meant to measure if you deserve to become a member of the association. I didn't become a member because it feels like an elitist group. I have the impression they overrate what IQ really is. However, sometimes I feel like joining just to have an opportunity to speak with people more like me.
8 Apr 2013
Hi bennok, I find this topic very interesting. There seems to be an increasing awareness these days that many people who have been considered normal but nerdy actually have Asperger's Syndrome (AS), or at least a mild form of it. I myself was diagnozed with it less than a year ago. I have a history of studying an encyclopedia on wildlife rather than playing outside as a child, memorizing pi to 131 decimal places at the age of 14 and getting medals in the International Mathematical Olympiad (IMO), while being poor at gymnastics, a picky eater/dresser, lacking entusiasm for subjects outside of my special interests, and having some communication problems. I am not completely unsociable, but rather selectively sociable (as an old class mate accurately pointed out at a high school reunion last summer).
Things like IMO and LittleGolem would attract aspies. I saw a documentary on British teenagers who tried to qualify for the IMO, and up to several of them had AS. I am certainly not suggesting that the lot of you have it - I have met many quite outgoing persons in the world of mathematics and board games - but I would expect that there are some.
If one looks up AS (e.g., on wikipedia), one will find "typical traits" that will make many people (including me in the past) think they cannot possibly have it, such as being unable to read facial expressions, unable to understand jokes and sarcasm, unable to take others' point of view, panicking if their routines are broken, having an unusual walk and so on. I don't mean to step on anyone's toes if they do have these traits but I want to say that they don't apply to me (or only to a small extent), and I believe many "nerds" are coming forward as aspies (or borderline aspies) without having these traits.
8 Apr 2013
I don't think high IQ itself is a social handicap but sometimes it is found with people who have a harder time communicating with other people.
8 Apr 2013
Sometimes it's wise to show one's intelligence by obscuring it ;-)
8 Apr 2013
Yup. Even if you are merely a bot ;-) But in fact, that stupidity in the first game was unintentional.
8 Apr 2013
Lol, I had no particular example in mind (except maybe if and when participating in forum discussions ;-)
8 Apr 2013
Lets see. I took the MENSA test and scored 159. Then I told everyone that I was a lot smarter than they were and they were all beneath me. Now I have no friends.
Therefore, it would appear that you are right.
8 Apr 2013
Yeah, phrases like "oh you poor limited being" and "well the truth is, you're just a big dummy" are somehow not received in the spirit in which they are intended. One must be patient with such limited vision.
With no intention to turn this thread into virtual group therapy, I too have a mild case of Asperger's, diagnosed just last year. I'm now 59. All this time I thought I was just a jerk. Which I am, of course, but that's another story.
9 Apr 2013
I am socially-awkard on a part-time basis, and widely rumoured to be smart. I have several life-long tics which would almost certainly qualify me to get into at least the front bar of /Le Club Asperge/, but just don' wanna. ( In fact, my family always wanted me to get diagnosed.)
I am currently more interested the not-yet-fashionable conjectures of whether associated personality traits have any connection to the recently discovered homo-sapiens / neanderthal admixture, with possible physical correlates.
I have a noticeable back skull protuberance ('bun'), and also an sagittal/crown structure with these two parallel raised ridges with valley betwixt. I haven't even read anywhere a name for this latter structure.
If you too have an odd mind in an odd container, feel free to share.
9 Apr 2013
Thank you for all your messages.
@Tas. I feel a strong relations to Autism including ASpergers. I was put one year late at school because I wasn't talking until I was 2. And not much more ever since. I have also been incapable as a child to make phone calls.
For my clothing, at the age of eleven I decided I would only wear my standardized uniform of white shirt and blue jeans. I remember one afternoon in Cologne (Köln) with my aunt and my mother going through 4 different shops because the white shirts we found weren't right!
I cured most of my autistic symptoms now and without any other assistance than my family environment and friends. I guess if at all I am a mild case :)
9 Apr 2013
Anyone watched 'The Big Bang' theory, by the way?
9 Apr 2013
I would have asked, does anyone not watch it? :p
9 Apr 2013
@ Christian
You are concise as ever :)
I might cite your phrase, if you allow. I would translate it in french as
"Il est parfois plus sage de montrer son intelligence en la voilant."
9 Apr 2013
@Christian K
Oh yes I do. My son knows I watch the BBTheory when he hears me laugh alone in front of my phone :)
I watched three episodes yesterday night.
Sheldon in it definitely HAS Asperger's Syndrom
My preceding message was for Christian Freeling btw...
9 Apr 2013
Sheldon is displaying a number of symptoms for AS; I believe some were added by actor Jim Parsons himself who noticed his character might have it. But he is rather exaggerated, and also has several characteristics that are inconsistent with AS: He says he enjoys solitude, but seeks company constantly. He brags about himself shamelessly, while an aspie would normally let his accomplishments speak for themselves.
9 Apr 2013
I wasn't making a diagnosis about Sheldon :)
I guess you can expect little accuracy from a sitcom. It is full of contradictions, not the least is that Leonard actually seduces Penny. Not very realistic.
I found my wife at university, I once had an adventure with a waitress but it didn't exceed a few hours.!
9 Apr 2013
Hehe, agreed...anyway have you done the interview?
9 Apr 2013
Not yet, I am being filmed right now at work in front of my colleagues. The interview will be done afterwards.
31 Dec 2013
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