Who would like larger boards for hex? Hex, Havannah

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Who would like larger boards for hex?
  • lazyplayer at 2019-02-02

    I’ve been experimenting with 19x19 and I’m liking it very much.

    Why no add 27x27 and 39x39? The numbers are obtained in this way:

    sqrt(2*13^2) = 18.3 -> 19x19

    sqrt(2*19^2) = 26.87 -> 27x27

    sqrt(2*27^2) = 38.18 -> 39x39

    Same topic covered here: https://senseis.xmp.net/?InterestingBoardSizes

    11x11 doesn’t fit this pattern but it’s simply a traditional board size.

    Who likes this idea?

    Larger board would also allow us to use some handicaps, so everyone can play with everyone.

  • lazyplayer at 2019-02-02

    The only difficulty is that to visualize the board, it could be hard. Well, I think the players can learn to use zoom feature of the browser.

  • HappyHippo ★ at 2019-02-02

    I’d rather an intermediate board, I think 15x15 would be a great size.

  • lazyplayer at 2019-02-02

    That too. The more, the better.

  • varegka at 2019-02-02

    Mi ideatas la ideon de granda Tabulo.

  • Arek Kulczycki at 2019-02-04

    I would rather go step by step, that is, 23x23 first.

  • isometry at 2019-07-22

    I think a championship round in 39x39 could easily take two years!

  • lazyplayer at 2019-07-22

    isometry, maybe 39x39 should be reserved for blitz play lol :D

  • Arek Kulczycki at 2019-07-23

    @lazyplayer: there was an LG user who created his own website to play Hex recently. I think we could ask him or help him to implement 39x39 so that we can play finally :D

  • Arek Kulczycki at 2019-07-23

    I don’t remember who it was, but I guess we could find in the forum

  • lguser at 2019-07-23

    I would want bigger boards, especially 39x39 or larger.

    Arek, i think the website you are referring to is https://hexy.games/ where the maximum board size is 26

  • lguser at 2019-07-23

    i’m hoping that a bot is trained on 19x19 to see how the gameplay changes as boards get bigger

  • lazyplayer at 2019-07-23

    Iguser, 19x19 is probably more easily unbalanced, in the sense that, one player can gain a huge advantage and convert it into a win even with crappy play... but on the other hand, if the game is truly balanced, if both player are truly playing very good moves, then it’s insanely complex.

  • lguser at 2019-07-23

    i forgot about amecy games https://new.amecy.com/main/? which is a correspondence play website with hex board sizes up to 52

  • lazyplayer at 2019-07-23

    Iguser, oh, here is a 52x52 game: https://new.amecy.com/main/game/484/?i=44

    Sadly the GUI of the website is very unappealing...

  • Tommah at 2019-07-23

    I run the amecy site.  If a few of you are interested, I can start a big-board Hex tournament.  Tell me which size you want.

    @lazyplayer: I’m open to suggestions for improving the site.  The navigation pages are rather utilitarian, but I have tried to make the game boards look nice.

  • lguser at 2019-07-24

    i believe that for big board sizes it is important to have support for mouse wheel scroll zooming, also scrolling through game history should not require a page reload everytime you click to another turn

  • lguser at 2019-07-24

    on amecygames, there is a problem at least in the big board sizes that you cant see the move history and links in the same page as the board itself without having to zoom out too far with much empty space on the page, because it is situated too low on the page

  • Tommah at 2019-07-24

    @lguser: Yeah, you make good points.  I’ll add them to my to-do list.  For a quick fix, I think I can easily add buttons to scroll through the moves, like the buttons that LG uses.

  • lazyplayer at 2019-07-24

    Tommah, you need at least the button “Next” and “Prev” like on trmph.com to facilitate navigation of the games...

    In fact I suggest you copy directly the entire widget with move list and the 4 buttons from trmph :D

  • lazyplayer at 2019-07-24

      You can also copy the blue buttons on top-right from littlegolem.net

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