Is there sufficient interest in this? The “plan” is for each of these four teams to play each other. Poland and US each have 5 players, and games have already started there. Yper, as the top ranked RestofEuropean, perhaps you could appoint members of your team as you see fit? I don't even know yet if Marius would be interested in this. If 5 players are willing for both teams, then instead of all the teams playing each other at once, we pair off, team versus team, which means everyone will have just 5 games going at once in this contest, not 15.

If only 4 players are available for a team, this might still be possible, depending on how “team points” are awarded. For example, if each team gets either 2 points, 1 point, or 0 points for each match with another team, regardless of how lopsided their victory or loss may be, then perhaps we could use that method to determine which team wins the competition, even if some teams are 4 players and some teams are 5. But it would probably be better if all teams have 5 players.

Since the USA-Poland match has started, I took duty to organize the Norway-RestOfEurope match.

I've already sent messages to the European players. I will wait responses from them and from the top Norwegian players either to me or to this thread.

I've sent messages to the top 5 Norwegian players, but have not yet got a response from all of them. I hope they are all willing to play.

Marius

i suggest it would be better if teams contained 4 players instead of 5. Poland, as u can read in another thread, has problem to gather 5 players and other teams could face the same problem. another thing is that US could then got 2 teams so there will be more teams and less games each player plays simultaneously. what do u think

Since all top 5 norwegians have agreed to play, I prefer teams of 5 players :-)

Marius

I agree that 5 is better. For the moment however we (Europe) have only 2 players. Martin is nowhere around and Crelo declined so Rumania won't be on this match (probably). I am still waiting from 3 other players. And pray to the god of hex for them to answer yes.

yper, did you ask John Tromp?

The European team has the following (3 for the time being) members:

agoui (Cyprus)

ypercube (Greece)

Szabo Gabor (Hungary)

I have also asked John Tromp (Netherlands) and Grau Ribas (Spain).

Crelo (Rumania) has declined and Niall Cardin (UK) is not playing here anymore.

Awww, a month ago I probably would have qualified.

Shucks.

Very nice option Alan. It seems undocumented - how to get it from menu? Do you know another such features?

Just click on the chart icons on the user info pages.

Thanks, it is devil's trick :)

it is nice to see that there a chance of a Spanish player being part of the “Rest of Europe” team, especially since the opponent is going to be Norway :)))

Yes, though I didn't get the “especially” part of the sentence… (personal grudge against Norway?) ;)

I let a Norwigian explain that. I am sure they can do it better :)

I think he refers to the fact that Spain humiliated Norway with a 3-0 victory in the play-off for the European Championship in Football in Oslo on Wednesday. That did not come as a very big surprise, however. It was a widely held opinion that Norway's only chance was the possibility of -10 degrees combined with a snow storm.

3-0 is not a humiliation. 6-0 is, however :->

And maybe a scotsman can explain that one ;)

Aha, sports. Now I understand why the allusion went straight over my head. :)

As I see it Alan, you still have chances taking part in the match. Several european players have declined the inviation (or neglected to answer). We are still only 3 and seeking for 2 more. I hope the situation will be cleared until this Sunday.

Then I can only hope that you're not too strict about rating. :)

—Latest news about the Norway-Europe match:—

Europeans finally got themselves together and we have the following teams:

--------Europe--------------------1. ypercube ----------(1825 - Greece)2. agoui -------------(1814 - Cyprus) 3. Szabo Gabor -------(1693 - Hungary)4. bennok ------------(1610 - Switzerland)5. Alan Turing -------(1605 - Sweden)and--------Norway--------------------1. Frode -------------(1964) 2. Marius Halsor -----(1951) 3. Jan Arild Teland --(1875)4. Taral -------------(1778)5. Tasmanian Devil ---(1703)

I recorded ratings as they appeared this morning (1st of December 2003). The Europeans will send the invitations. Good luck to both teams!

The Europeans will send the invitations. Good luck to both teams!

That's great. Who goes first in each match?

odd-odd and even-even : European player is first.

odd-even and even-odd : Norwegian player is first.

By odd and even I mean the numbering as shown above (agoui is 2 and Taral is 4 for example so in game agoui vs Taral, agoui should be first. I'll post a table with results and games in a new thread as soon as possible.

Game 107579 has finished: Tasmanian Devil - agoui 0:2

Thanks to yper for getting this match going! A table is here, along with the Poland-US table. Not all the Norway-Europe games have started yet. Please message me or post your results in this thread or the “results” thread. I will try to keep both tables current. Please let me know of any errors.

The plan is, there will eventually be six tables, one for each team match, plus a table to show the results between all four teams. And that leads to the question, how will team match points be awarded? Will a team get just 2, 1, or 0 points for each match, or will the team get the total score by all its players?

IMHO if its team tournament all the 25 games should be counted as one match/game. so the result would be e.g US vs PL 2:0 (or 1:0 as we're sure there is no draw in hex) not 50:0 (25:0)

No draw in Hex? What do you mean?

(just kidding everyone, internal joke)

Alan, do not laugh! The Little Golem is exceptional place where there is draw in hex, however I never tried to offer it :)

You may not offer a draw in Hex. It is only possible in games that actually can be drawn.

I wasn't laughing, just smiling gleefully. I month or so ago I was losing in a game against na_wspak, and I suggested jokingly that we declare a draw. na_wspak said he would if only he knew how, and I suggested we use a number of odd pieces of equipment for attempting the draw. I do not remember all of them now, but a length of string was involved. Oh, and a black hole.

i should have offered a draw in our latest game, Alan. maybe that time it would work.

I understand now my mistake regarding draw in LG hex:

1. I saw offer draw link in twixt.

2. I was convinced that there is no draw in twixt like in hex (I am still surprised it is possible!)

3. I thought that offer draw link exists for hex also.

4. Another argument was that result in hex is 2:0 or 0:2. It suggests that 1:1 would be possible

5. :)

6. …

7. Profit!

Sorry, all non-slashdotters; internal joke (again).