player rankings and game statistics Game of Empathy
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darse at 2012-01-21
I've enjoyed my first few games of Empathy, and have enjoyed some success (winning on my first two tries, then 3 out of 5, and coming very close on a couple of others).
I didn't see a good way of finding out who the best players are, so i wrote a program to gather and parse all the game results, and calculate a few different metrics. The next couple of posts will provide the results of that analysis.
Please critique or comment on my methods, or suggest other measures that you might like to see.
Here are the three scoring methods i used:
1. The shared win - shared loss score.
All the winners share in the win, and all the non-winners share in the loss. For example, if there were 22 players, and two of them tied for first, then the winners would each earn 1/2 = 0.5 wins, and the non-winners would each get -1/20 = -0.05 losses (making it a zero-sum metric). Over many games, we sum a player's win/loss shares, and divide by the number of games played to get an average.
2. The number of “chips” won.
This model is like a poker game: everyone antes one chip to play, and the winners split the pot equally. In the previous example, each of the non-winners would net -1 chip, while the winners would net +10 chips each (they gross 11 chips, but it cost them 1 for the ante). That makes it a zero-sum total again, and winning a game with many players counts for more than winning a smaller game. Over many games, we sum the chip totals, and divide by the number of games played to get an average (or “return on investment”, ROI).
3. The fraction of the best possible score.
Here we compare the player's score to the maximum score possible (i.e. the sum of the top 10 answers). [1] Since 10 unique answers still earns 10 points, i subtract 10 from both totals to get a fraction in the range 0.0 - 1.0. [2] Over many games, we sum the fractions, and divide by the number of games played to get an average.
I did not sort the player rankings by average fraction, because that number depends a lot on which games were played. Some wins will have a 1.0 fraction, while other games have tough categories where the winning fraction might be only 0.75, or less. The average winning fraction was 0.9037 (~90%) over the 65 games in the archive so far. [3]
Footnotes:
[1] If no one had a perfect score, then you could argue that the best possible score was actually a little higher. I ignore that and just use the sum of the top 10 answers as the denominator.
[2] Some players somehow managed to score less than 10 (e.g. an incomplete entry), but they do not score below 0.0.
[3] I've read some forum posts indicating that many past games were lost as a result of a server crash. Unfortunately, i have no way of accessing those game results.
For the averages, a minimum number of games is required, so that statistically meaningless results don't pollute the top of the list. If a player has played less than the minimum number of games, then their totals are divided by the minimum instead of by the actual number of games (i.e. a true Bayesian average). I would normally choose a 10-game or 20-game minimum, but i chose 7 here because Richard's Empathy results page gives a table for the last 7 games. [No, i didn't choose 7 just because that's the number of games i've played under “drbot” – and i'd still be on top of the list with a 20-game minimum anyway, so there. :-p]
For the player rankings, i've only shown the top 27 out of 121 players who have played at least one game of Empathy (roughly the top 22%). There was a natural break at around the zero expected value point, just above the many players who have played only one game.
I haven't shown the whole table because i don't want to risk causing any embarrassment to anyone. If you're not on the list, and would like to know your ranking and stats, then send me a message and i'll send you the row.
Following the player rankings will be a summary of all the games played so far (since the crash). Included in that table is the number of unique answers given for each game (and average number of uniques per player), which can be viewed as a measure of how disperse the answers were (or perhaps how hard the category was, in terms of reaching common consensus choices).
I'm new to LG, and not yet sure how to do proper formatting, so forgive me if the first attempts get messed up.
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darse at 2012-01-21
Here are the top player rankings, sorted by win/loss average, using a 7-game minimum.
Empathy Player Rankings: sorted by average win/loss per game (minimum 7 games) Legend: rank = overall rank among all past participants (by win_avg) games = games played wins = total wins and shared wins (1 / number of winners) win_avg = average win/loss share per game chips = total chips earned over all games played ch_avg = average chips earned per game (1-chip ante) fr_avg = average fraction of the maximum score plid = player id number username = player username rank games wins win_avg chips ch_avg fr_avg plid username 1 7 3.00 +0.4026 +71.00 +10.14 0.8494 26854 drbot 2 9 2.00 +0.1939 +40.00 +4.44 0.7891 13607 aldiris 3 62 10.54 +0.1358 +250.83 +4.05 0.7285 14918 MarleysGhost 4 60 8.37 +0.1094 +176.97 +2.95 0.7524 7861 wojtex 5 16 2.00 +0.0963 +39.00 +2.44 0.6382 10303 MichaeI X 6 60 7.12 +0.0857 +134.72 +2.25 0.7465 1017 Elisa Kabiljo 7 12 1.08 +0.0605 +21.38 +1.78 0.6173 25403 Ericos 8 1 0.33 +0.0476 +5.67 +0.81 0.6444 15475 Randy J. 9 63 4.33 +0.0307 +56.67 +0.90 0.6018 23360 nemrac 10 54 3.50 +0.0258 +28.50 +0.53 0.6247 7704 slaapgraag 11 15 1.00 +0.0251 +10.00 +0.67 0.4979 1927 Bill LeBoeuf 12 3 0.25 +0.0234 +5.75 +0.82 0.6506 16207 Micco 13 4 0.25 +0.0201 +4.75 +0.68 0.6889 21003 Aganju 14 22 1.04 +0.0171 +5.83 +0.27 0.6734 1373 klaashaas 15 27 1.50 +0.0163 +17.00 +0.63 0.7109 2369 Tom Ace 16 20 1.04 +0.0160 +0.83 +0.04 0.5794 2495 Barry 17 13 0.54 +0.0147 +3.83 +0.29 0.6040 22247 Got Twixt 18 58 3.04 +0.0147 +27.83 +0.48 0.6249 16377 Finn Th. Nielsen 19 10 0.50 +0.0108 +3.00 +0.30 0.6659 13536 saimon 20 30 1.25 +0.0082 +9.25 +0.31 0.6427 2318 Burton 21 28 1.25 +0.0073 +4.75 +0.17 0.6925 16629 Paul Gautherot 22 1 0.04 +0.0060 +0.83 +0.12 1.0000 13774 Antonio 23 1 0.04 +0.0060 +0.83 +0.12 1.0000 10407 Ray Garrison 24 2 0.04 +0.0012 -0.17 -0.02 0.7941 13804 Stella Chui 25 41 1.37 +0.0006 -4.53 -0.11 0.6202 2475 Jos 26 39 1.41 +0.0004 -10.95 -0.28 0.5188 22272 keith630 27 52 1.87 -0.0002 -11.03 -0.21 0.6332 21402 somar96
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darse at 2012-01-21
Rats, that deleted extra spaces and messed up the formatting… trying again.
Empathy Player Rankings:
sorted by average win/loss per game (minimum 7 games)
Legend:
rank = overall rank among all past participants (by win_avg)
games = games played
wins = total wins and shared wins (1 / number of winners)
win_avg = average win/loss share per game
chips = total chips earned over all games played
ch_avg = average chips earned per game (1-chip ante)
fr_avg = average fraction of the maximum score
plid = player id number
username = player username
rank games wins win_avg chips ch_avg fr_avg plid username
1 7 3.00 +0.4026 +71.00 +10.14 0.8494 26854 drbot
2 9 2.00 +0.1939 +40.00 +4.44 0.7891 13607 aldiris
3 62 10.54 +0.1358 +250.83 +4.05 0.7285 14918 MarleysGhost
4 60 8.37 +0.1094 +176.97 +2.95 0.7524 7861 wojtex
5 16 2.00 +0.0963 +39.00 +2.44 0.6382 10303 MichaeI X
6 60 7.12 +0.0857 +134.72 +2.25 0.7465 1017 Elisa Kabiljo
7 12 1.08 +0.0605 +21.38 +1.78 0.6173 25403 Ericos
8 1 0.33 +0.0476 +5.67 +0.81 0.6444 15475 Randy J.
9 63 4.33 +0.0307 +56.67 +0.90 0.6018 23360 nemrac
10 54 3.50 +0.0258 +28.50 +0.53 0.6247 7704 slaapgraag
11 15 1.00 +0.0251 +10.00 +0.67 0.4979 1927 Bill LeBoeuf
12 3 0.25 +0.0234 +5.75 +0.82 0.6506 16207 Micco
13 4 0.25 +0.0201 +4.75 +0.68 0.6889 21003 Aganju
14 22 1.04 +0.0171 +5.83 +0.27 0.6734 1373 klaashaas
15 27 1.50 +0.0163 +17.00 +0.63 0.7109 2369 Tom Ace
16 20 1.04 +0.0160 +0.83 +0.04 0.5794 2495 Barry
17 13 0.54 +0.0147 +3.83 +0.29 0.6040 22247 Got Twixt
18 58 3.04 +0.0147 +27.83 +0.48 0.6249 16377 Finn Th. Nielsen
19 10 0.50 +0.0108 +3.00 +0.30 0.6659 13536 saimon
20 30 1.25 +0.0082 +9.25 +0.31 0.6427 2318 Burton
21 28 1.25 +0.0073 +4.75 +0.17 0.6925 16629 Paul Gautherot
22 1 0.04 +0.0060 +0.83 +0.12 1.0000 13774 Antonio
23 1 0.04 +0.0060 +0.83 +0.12 1.0000 10407 Ray Garrison
24 2 0.04 +0.0012 -0.17 -0.02 0.7941 13804 Stella Chui
25 41 1.37 +0.0006 -4.53 -0.11 0.6202 2475 Jos
26 39 1.41 +0.0004 -10.95 -0.28 0.5188 22272 keith630
27 52 1.87 -0.0002 -11.03 -0.21 0.6332 21402 somar96
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darse at 2012-01-21
Hmm… both
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darse at 2012-01-21
Here is another try – sorry for the noise.
Empathy Player Rankings:
sorted by average win/loss per game (minimum 7 games)
Legend:
rank = overall rank among all past participants (by win_avg)
games = games played
wins = total wins and shared wins (1 / number of winners)
win_avg = average win/loss share per game
chips = total chips earned over all games played
ch_avg = average chips earned per game (1-chip ante)
fr_avg = average fraction of the maximum score
plid = player id number
username = player username
rank games wins win_avg chips ch_avg fr_avg plid username
1 7 3.00 +0.4026 +71.00 +10.14 0.8494 26854 drbot
2 9 2.00 +0.1939 +40.00 +4.44 0.7891 13607 aldiris
3 62 10.54 +0.1358 +250.83 +4.05 0.7285 14918 MarleysGhost
4 60 8.37 +0.1094 +176.97 +2.95 0.7524 7861 wojtex
5 16 2.00 +0.0963 +39.00 +2.44 0.6382 10303 MichaeI X
6 60 7.12 +0.0857 +134.72 +2.25 0.7465 1017 Elisa Kabiljo
7 12 1.08 +0.0605 +21.38 +1.78 0.6173 25403 Ericos
8 1 0.33 +0.0476 +5.67 +0.81 0.6444 15475 Randy J.
9 63 4.33 +0.0307 +56.67 +0.90 0.6018 23360 nemrac
10 54 3.50 +0.0258 +28.50 +0.53 0.6247 7704 slaapgraag
11 15 1.00 +0.0251 +10.00 +0.67 0.4979 1927 Bill LeBoeuf
12 3 0.25 +0.0234 +5.75 +0.82 0.6506 16207 Micco
13 4 0.25 +0.0201 +4.75 +0.68 0.6889 21003 Aganju
14 22 1.04 +0.0171 +5.83 +0.27 0.6734 1373 klaashaas
15 27 1.50 +0.0163 +17.00 +0.63 0.7109 2369 Tom Ace
16 20 1.04 +0.0160 +0.83 +0.04 0.5794 2495 Barry
17 13 0.54 +0.0147 +3.83 +0.29 0.6040 22247 Got Twixt
18 58 3.04 +0.0147 +27.83 +0.48 0.6249 16377 Finn Th. Nielsen
19 10 0.50 +0.0108 +3.00 +0.30 0.6659 13536 saimon
20 30 1.25 +0.0082 +9.25 +0.31 0.6427 2318 Burton
21 28 1.25 +0.0073 +4.75 +0.17 0.6925 16629 Paul Gautherot
22 1 0.04 +0.0060 +0.83 +0.12 1.0000 13774 Antonio
23 1 0.04 +0.0060 +0.83 +0.12 1.0000 10407 Ray Garrison
24 2 0.04 +0.0012 -0.17 -0.02 0.7941 13804 Stella Chui
25 41 1.37 +0.0006 -4.53 -0.11 0.6202 2475 Jos
26 39 1.41 +0.0004 -10.95 -0.28 0.5188 22272 keith630
27 52 1.87 -0.0002 -11.03 -0.21 0.6332 21402 somar96
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darse at 2012-01-21
I'll just continue thrashing, for your amusement…
Empathy Player Rankings: sorted by average win/loss per game (minimum 7 games) Legend: rank = overall rank among all past participants (by win_avg) games = games played wins = total wins and shared wins (1 / number of winners) win_avg = average win/loss share per game chips = total chips earned over all games played ch_avg = average chips earned per game (1-chip ante) fr_avg = average fraction of the maximum score plid = player id number username = player username rank games wins win_avg chips ch_avg fr_avg plid username 1 7 3.00 +0.4026 +71.00 +10.14 0.8494 26854 drbot 2 9 2.00 +0.1939 +40.00 +4.44 0.7891 13607 aldiris 3 62 10.54 +0.1358 +250.83 +4.05 0.7285 14918 MarleysGhost 4 60 8.37 +0.1094 +176.97 +2.95 0.7524 7861 wojtex 5 16 2.00 +0.0963 +39.00 +2.44 0.6382 10303 MichaeI X 6 60 7.12 +0.0857 +134.72 +2.25 0.7465 1017 Elisa Kabiljo 7 12 1.08 +0.0605 +21.38 +1.78 0.6173 25403 Ericos 8 1 0.33 +0.0476 +5.67 +0.81 0.6444 15475 Randy J. 9 63 4.33 +0.0307 +56.67 +0.90 0.6018 23360 nemrac 10 54 3.50 +0.0258 +28.50 +0.53 0.6247 7704 slaapgraag 11 15 1.00 +0.0251 +10.00 +0.67 0.4979 1927 Bill LeBoeuf 12 3 0.25 +0.0234 +5.75 +0.82 0.6506 16207 Micco 13 4 0.25 +0.0201 +4.75 +0.68 0.6889 21003 Aganju 14 22 1.04 +0.0171 +5.83 +0.27 0.6734 1373 klaashaas 15 27 1.50 +0.0163 +17.00 +0.63 0.7109 2369 Tom Ace 16 20 1.04 +0.0160 +0.83 +0.04 0.5794 2495 Barry 17 13 0.54 +0.0147 +3.83 +0.29 0.6040 22247 Got Twixt 18 58 3.04 +0.0147 +27.83 +0.48 0.6249 16377 Finn Th. Nielsen 19 10 0.50 +0.0108 +3.00 +0.30 0.6659 13536 saimon 20 30 1.25 +0.0082 +9.25 +0.31 0.6427 2318 Burton 21 28 1.25 +0.0073 +4.75 +0.17 0.6925 16629 Paul Gautherot 22 1 0.04 +0.0060 +0.83 +0.12 1.0000 13774 Antonio 23 1 0.04 +0.0060 +0.83 +0.12 1.0000 10407 Ray Garrison 24 2 0.04 +0.0012 -0.17 -0.02 0.7941 13804 Stella Chui 25 41 1.37 +0.0006 -4.53 -0.11 0.6202 2475 Jos 26 39 1.41 +0.0004 -10.95 -0.28 0.5188 22272 keith630 27 52 1.87 -0.0002 -11.03 -0.21 0.6332 21402 somar96
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darse at 2012-01-21
(Okay, [quote] [/quote] doesn't work and [pre] [/pre] HTML tags give double spacing, but i'll just have to live with that…)
Here are the player rankings again, this time sorted by average chips (i.e. return on investment, or ROI), and using a 10-game minimum.
The cut-off is a bit higher this time (24 players above the one-loss group).
Please comment on which method you prefer.
Empathy Player Rankings: sorted by average chips per game (minimum 10 games) Legend: rank = overall rank among all past participants (by win_avg) games = games played wins = total wins and shared wins (1 / number of winners) win_avg = average win/loss share per game chips = total chips earned over all games played ch_avg = average chips earned per game (1-chip ante) fr_avg = average fraction of the maximum score plid = player id number username = player username rank games wins win_avg chips ch_avg fr_avg plid username 1 7 3.00 +0.2818 +71.00 +7.10 0.8494 26854 drbot 2 62 10.54 +0.1358 +250.83 +4.05 0.7285 14918 MarleysGhost 3 9 2.00 +0.1745 +40.00 +4.00 0.7891 13607 aldiris 4 60 8.37 +0.1094 +176.97 +2.95 0.7524 7861 wojtex 5 16 2.00 +0.0963 +39.00 +2.44 0.6382 10303 MichaeI X 6 60 7.12 +0.0857 +134.72 +2.25 0.7465 1017 Elisa Kabiljo 7 12 1.08 +0.0605 +21.38 +1.78 0.6173 25403 Ericos 8 63 4.33 +0.0307 +56.67 +0.90 0.6018 23360 nemrac 9 15 1.00 +0.0251 +10.00 +0.67 0.4979 1927 Bill LeBoeuf 10 27 1.50 +0.0163 +17.00 +0.63 0.7109 2369 Tom Ace 11 3 0.25 +0.0164 +5.75 +0.57 0.6506 16207 Micco 12 1 0.33 +0.0333 +5.67 +0.57 0.6444 15475 Randy J. 13 54 3.50 +0.0258 +28.50 +0.53 0.6247 7704 slaapgraag 14 58 3.04 +0.0147 +27.83 +0.48 0.6249 16377 Finn Th. Nielsen 15 4 0.25 +0.0141 +4.75 +0.47 0.6889 21003 Aganju 16 30 1.25 +0.0082 +9.25 +0.31 0.6427 2318 Burton 17 10 0.50 +0.0108 +3.00 +0.30 0.6659 13536 saimon 18 13 0.54 +0.0147 +3.83 +0.29 0.6040 22247 Got Twixt 19 22 1.04 +0.0171 +5.83 +0.27 0.6734 1373 klaashaas 20 28 1.25 +0.0073 +4.75 +0.17 0.6925 16629 Paul Gautherot 21 1 0.04 +0.0042 +0.83 +0.08 1.0000 13774 Antonio 22 1 0.04 +0.0042 +0.83 +0.08 1.0000 10407 Ray Garrison 23 20 1.04 +0.0160 +0.83 +0.04 0.5794 2495 Barry 24 2 0.04 +0.0008 -0.17 -0.02 0.7941 13804 Stella Chui
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darse at 2012-01-21
Finally, here are some stats on each Empathy game played so far, in chronological order.
The games with the highest ratio of unique answers are games 15, 50, 46, and 51, with an average of 5 unique answers per player, or more.
And… i'll have to send it in two chunks because it exceeds the size limits.
Game Details: Legend: game = game number plrs = number of players 1s = number of answers that were unique (1) 1pp = average number of uniques per player Ws = number of winners wshare = bonus for winning = (1 / number of winners) -lshare = penalty for not winning = (-1 / number of non-winners) chips = number of chips earned for the winner(s) (1-chip ante) fraction = fraction of the maximum score = (score - 10) / (maxscore - 10) [ 1.0 = a perfect top 10 list, 0.0 = 10 unique picks (1) ] game plrs 1s 1pp Ws wshare -lshare chips fraction category / expression [ winner(s) ] 1 23 82 3.57 1 1.000 -0.0455 22.00 0.9778 best sports car [ Elisa Kabiljo ] 2 35 47 1.34 4 0.250 -0.0323 7.75 1.0000 Solar System [ somar96, Aganju, Paul Gautherot, Micco ] 3 24 69 2.88 1 1.000 -0.0435 23.00 0.8980 things to secure your house [ Paul Gautherot ] 4 27 103 3.81 1 1.000 -0.0385 26.00 0.8736 Bjorn, Steffi, Rafael, Roger, Serena, Venus and ? [ aldiris ] 5 32 62 1.94 1 1.000 -0.0323 31.00 0.8403 favorite dance [ Burton ] 6 22 47 2.14 1 1.000 -0.0476 21.00 0.8966 Bob Dylan albums [ aldiris ] 7 30 79 2.63 1 1.000 -0.0345 29.00 0.9695 lips [ slaapgraag ] 8 31 65 2.10 1 1.000 -0.0333 30.00 0.9231 healthy food [ Hjallti ] 9 31 65 2.10 1 1.000 -0.0333 30.00 0.9716 wine [ MichaeI X ] 10 30 68 2.27 1 1.000 -0.0345 29.00 0.9123 favorite fast food [ nemrac ] 11 35 100 2.86 1 1.000 -0.0294 34.00 0.8889 paper _____________ [ MarleysGhost ] 12 32 90 2.81 1 1.000 -0.0323 31.00 0.9449 I'm not afraid of ... [ MarleysGhost ] 13 26 91 3.50 1 1.000 -0.0400 25.00 0.9381 Quick, catch the ...! [ MarleysGhost ] 14 24 78 3.25 1 1.000 -0.0435 23.00 0.6667 Everyone likes ________ . I don't. [ MichaeI X ] 15 26 154 5.92 1 1.000 -0.0400 25.00 0.8542 I wonder where......is now! [ klaashaas ] 16 31 82 2.65 1 1.000 -0.0333 30.00 0.9928 turtle [ wojtex ] 17 23 105 4.57 2 0.500 -0.0476 10.50 0.9077 wrestlers [ slaapgraag, wojtex ] 18 29 76 2.62 1 1.000 -0.0357 28.00 1.0000 frog [ MarleysGhost ] 19 33 81 2.45 1 1.000 -0.0312 32.00 0.9000 abbreviations (3 letters) [ Yoti ] 20 34 138 4.06 1 1.000 -0.0303 33.00 0.8444 silence [ MarleysGhost ] 21 37 56 1.51 1 1.000 -0.0278 36.00 0.8347 ...............day [ Finn Th. Nielsen ] 22 38 98 2.58 2 0.500 -0.0278 18.00 0.9925 silver [ Elisa Kabiljo, wojtex ] 23 35 30 0.86 2 0.500 -0.0303 16.50 1.0000 chess [ wojtex, Elisa Kabiljo ] 24 28 87 3.11 1 1.000 -0.0370 27.00 0.8571 Scissors [ nemrac ] 25 30 143 4.77 2 0.500 -0.0357 14.00 0.8000 best golem bot [ Aaron Coombs, Got Twixt ] 26 29 75 2.59 4 0.250 -0.0400 6.25 1.0000 Famous people with initials MJ [ Jos, Burton, Hjallti, wojtex ] 27 31 40 1.29 13 0.077 -0.0556 1.38 1.0000 Largest States [ axiohm, daedalus02, Jos, stay, Dionysos, somar96, keith630, funtobewith11, Elisa Kabiljo, Ericos, sanderss69, wojtex, passenger ] 28 34 59 1.74 1 1.000 -0.0303 33.00 1.0000 best US state to visit [ wojtex ] 29 31 88 2.84 1 1.000 -0.0333 30.00 0.8627 Best place to sleep when homeless [ nemrac ] 30 44 14 0.32 24 0.042 -0.0500 0.83 1.0000 Months of the Year [ MarleysGhost, kingofthebesI, sean_henderson, omike, Barry, thomsen nielsen, Antonio, Finn Th. Nielsen, Hjallti, somar96, Elisa Kabiljo, daedalus02, Jos, axiohm, Dasher, Got Twixt, Aaron Coombs, klaashaas, Viper, wojtex, Ray Garrison, zwack, WerZerg, Stella Chui ]
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darse at 2012-01-21
game plrs 1s 1pp Ws wshare -lshare chips fraction category / expression [ winner(s) ] 31 30 102 3.40 2 0.500 -0.0357 14.00 0.7558 Johnny Carson [ MarleysGhost, wojtex ] 32 35 64 1.83 2 0.500 -0.0303 16.50 0.9924 cats [ Elisa Kabiljo, wojtex ] 33 31 81 2.61 1 1.000 -0.0333 30.00 0.8729 zero [ Ericos ] 34 32 86 2.69 2 0.500 -0.0333 15.00 0.9880 time [ Tom Ace, Elisa Kabiljo ] 35 33 67 2.03 1 1.000 -0.0312 32.00 0.9124 student [ MarleysGhost ] 36 25 110 4.40 1 1.000 -0.0417 24.00 0.8289 your favorite molecule [ MarleysGhost ] 37 25 58 2.32 1 1.000 -0.0417 24.00 0.9744 dutch comedians [ Jos ] 38 24 88 3.67 1 1.000 -0.0435 23.00 0.9873 magazines [ nemrac ] 39 31 75 2.42 1 1.000 -0.0333 30.00 0.8879 No, you idiot, Tokyo is not the capital of _________ [ MarleysGhost ] 40 27 28 1.04 1 1.000 -0.0385 26.00 0.9658 US Presidents [ Elisa Kabiljo ] 41 24 80 3.33 1 1.000 -0.0435 23.00 0.7979 picture [ MarleysGhost ] 42 27 92 3.41 1 1.000 -0.0385 26.00 0.8514 How to recognise different types of trees from quite a long way away [ MarleysGhost ] 43 27 57 2.11 2 0.500 -0.0400 12.50 1.0000 water [ Elisa Kabiljo, wojtex ] 44 26 50 1.92 2 0.500 -0.0417 12.00 1.0000 Moons in the Solar system [ saimon, somar96 ] 45 27 77 2.85 1 1.000 -0.0385 26.00 0.7765 Trains [ wojtex ] 46 22 123 5.59 1 1.000 -0.0476 21.00 0.7353 Top Chess Tournaments [ slaapgraag ] 47 22 54 2.45 1 1.000 -0.0476 21.00 0.9518 Seaside towns in England. [ Finn Th. Nielsen ] 48 25 60 2.40 1 1.000 -0.0417 24.00 0.9680 philosophers [ Finn Th. Nielsen ] 49 22 41 1.86 1 1.000 -0.0476 21.00 0.9815 Dracula [ Elisa Kabiljo ] 50 19 107 5.63 1 1.000 -0.0556 18.00 0.9107 Europe's best distilates. [ Barry ] 51 13 65 5.00 1 1.000 -0.0833 12.00 0.6429 robot [ funtobewith11 ] 52 15 41 2.73 1 1.000 -0.0714 14.00 1.0000 Aquatic mammals [ somar96 ] 53 20 89 4.45 3 0.333 -0.0588 5.67 0.6444 best job to have [ nemrac, keith630, Randy J. ] 54 20 45 2.25 1 1.000 -0.0526 19.00 0.8916 Stairs [ nonpharm ] 55 21 51 2.43 2 0.500 -0.0526 9.50 0.9900 christmas [ wojtex, Elisa Kabiljo ] 56 25 76 3.04 1 1.000 -0.0417 24.00 0.9176 castle [ Bill LeBoeuf ] 57 16 61 3.81 1 1.000 -0.0667 15.00 0.8302 Greece [ wojtex ] 58 19 71 3.74 1 1.000 -0.0556 18.00 0.7778 I found a ... in my shoe [ keith630 ] 59 26 80 3.08 1 1.000 -0.0400 25.00 0.9524 physicists [ drbot ] 60 31 116 3.74 1 1.000 -0.0333 30.00 0.8657 revolution [ drbot ] 61 28 74 2.64 1 1.000 -0.0370 27.00 0.8081 cave [ Tom Ace ] 62 19 73 3.84 1 1.000 -0.0556 18.00 0.8800 mathematicians more famous for something else [ slaapgraag ] 63 21 58 2.76 1 1.000 -0.0500 20.00 0.9054 mountains [ drbot ] 64 26 47 1.81 2 0.500 -0.0417 12.00 1.0000 Disney Characters [ Elisa Kabiljo, wojtex ] 65 23 56 2.43 2 0.500 -0.0476 10.50 0.9469 Nobel Prize [ Dasher, Elisa Kabiljo ]
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MarleysGhost at 2012-01-21
@darse: See also http://www.littlegolem.net/jsp/forum/topic2.jsp?forum=200&topic=257, which points to http://www.tavislee.com/goe/last7games.php.
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ypercube at 2012-01-21
rank games wins win_avg chips ch_avg fr_avg plid username 1 7 3.00 +0.2818 +71.00 +7.10 0.8494 26854 drbot 2 62 10.54 +0.1358 +250.83 +4.05 0.7285 14918 MarleysGhost 3 9 2.00 +0.1745 +40.00 +4.00 0.7891 13607 aldiris
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darse at 2012-01-21
Thanks for the link, SpectreOfBob. :)
Q1: Are there particular ways that mongoose looks at the results that you really like? Golf scorecard, maybe?
Q2: Is there some old data there that might be salvaged and used in current reports? The “time machine” links are all File Not Found.
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Hjallti ★ at 2012-01-22
I guess Richard somehow made old results invisible due to complaints about repeated topics.
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Hjallti ★ at 2012-01-22
In fact I liked most the stats about most wins, most top10 places. I think I was around 30 when mongoose stopped to deliver results and I got a series of great results… a shame I never so my climb…
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MarleysGhost at 2012-01-22
Yes, the golf scorecard is my favorite. 2nd favorite is Top Ten Percentage.
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ypercube at 2012-01-22
I guess Richard somehow made old results difficult to find (not invisible) due to the page that showed all results was slow.
See here the results off the first Empathy game, Date: January 29, 2006 Expression: Snow
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darse at 2012-01-22
Wow, thanks for that, ypercube! I was fetching all the recent webpages, but for some reason it never occurred to me to try the earlier game numbers – and they appear to work fine!
That should make future lists far more comprehensive.
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slaapgraag at 2012-01-23
Marleys, thx for posing that link. Ths 'golfcard' was my favourite too, always meant for me 'the best player of the moment'. Oh, I was GOOD back then ;-). Too bad it doesnt work anymore….
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darse at 2012-01-23
I'll see what i can do along those lines, but i have some other improvements to do first.
I've now gathered the backlog games. I see that you rank third in all-time wins, and have amassed an impressive hoard of chips:
rank games wins w-l_avg chips chip_avg frac_avg plid username 25 638 46.42 +0.0533 +1156.70 +1.81 0.7811 1017 Elisa Kabiljo 15 477 45.05 +0.0794 +2188.70 +4.59 0.8096 10954 Paavo Pirinen 55 557 30.20 +0.0323 +562.91 +1.01 0.7293 7704 slaapgraag 39 492 29.10 +0.0395 +872.18 +1.77 0.7778 12895 FatPhil
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darse at 2012-01-23
I have some new results, going all the way back to game #1…
I'm going to re-start the discussion in a new thread, because the very wide game summary table makes it hard to read the other posts (it causes horizontal scrolling). Starting from scratch will also allow me to lose the formatting errors in the early posts.
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darse at 2012-02-01
Just experimenting with more HTML tags – please disregard.
code:
1 107 56 4 4 2 1 7 5 13 5 10 17 11 2 1 1 1 6 10 7 Elisa Kabiljo
kbd:
1 107 56 4 4 2 1 7 5 13 5 10 17 11 2 1 1 1 6 10 7 Elisa Kabiljo
samp:
1 107 56 4 4 2 1 7 5 13 5 10 17 11 2 1 1 1 6 10 7 Elisa Kabiljo
tt:
1 107 56 4 4 2 1 7 5 13 5 10 17 11 2 1 1 1 6 10 7 Elisa Kabiljo
var:
1 107 56 4 4 2 1 7 5 13 5 10 17 11 2 1 1 1 6 10 7 Elisa Kabiljo
pre:
1 107 56 4 4 2 1 7 5 13 5 10 17 11 2 1 1 1 6 10 7 Elisa Kabiljo
end test.
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darse at 2012-02-01
Ya, that's just broken… :-)
Will be posting the recent golf scorecard to the new thread…