Game 2033213: Shalev vs. Leela Hex, Havannah

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Game 2033213: Shalev vs. Leela
  • Bill LeBoeuf ★ at 2019-01-06

    Interesting Leela chosing 24. g5 rather than f6, Looks like a choice Maciej would make :)

  • Arek Kulczycki at 2019-01-07

    I would like to be very wrong, but it’s almost game over. B9 keeps shalev alive for a moment, but it would be a true magic if he can connect that to bottom. I believe in magic though!

  • Bill LeBoeuf ★ at 2019-01-08

    G4 would seem to be a simple answer to B9...

  • David J Bush ★ at 2019-01-08

    Why are we talking about specific moves of a game in progress?

  • lazyplayer at 2019-01-09

    David, because these casual discussions don’t make any difference anyway. But in theory you’re right, we should avoid that.

  • Bill LeBoeuf ★ at 2019-01-09

    David, my thought is that commenting on a game in progress against a computer may possibly help the human but cannot  help the computer... so it may not be a bad thing... what do you think... maybe we should only talk about moves already played... 

  • Bill LeBoeuf ★ at 2019-01-09

    Leela does seem to make beautiful and logical moves which are great to watch, note her game against Arek as well... her games are reminiscent of Maciej’s games...


  • Force majeure at 2019-01-09

    We the People demand Maciej vs Leela jubango!!!

  • lazyplayer at 2019-01-09

    This game: https://littlegolem.net/jsp/game/game.jsp?gid=2033214&nmove=5

    Is similar to an old game of mine: https://littlegolem.net/jsp/game/game.jsp?gid=1804634&nmove=6

    I think Arek probably lost with 6 h7.

  • lazyplayer at 2019-01-09

    I also was losing against Jos, and post-game analysis convinced me that the only plausible answer was 6 j3 (using the coordinates from my game).

  • lazyplayer at 2019-01-09

    Would be 6 k4 in Arek’s game.

  • lazyplayer at 2019-01-09

    Leela plays good enough that one error in the opening is fatal. It’s really as simple as that. And we make a lot of errors there. We just play very stupid guesses.

  • lazyplayer at 2019-01-09

    In my games I experimented with 4-4, and I died of excess experimentation, heheh. It’s interesting Daniel got into a winning position by doing same initial stones as me...

  • shalev at 2019-01-10

    Sorry I’ve been away for a few days. I’ve been meaning to resign my game with leela for a while now, there is no hope at all. I’ve just been experimenting to see how it replies to various desperate attempts. So in my opinion you can feel free to discuss, I think both leela and I know the outcome already.

  • Bill LeBoeuf ★ at 2019-01-11

    Yah, if you play to the top of the board B7 wins and if you play to the bottom G4 wins.

  • Bill LeBoeuf ★ at 2019-01-11

    In Areks game I kind of liked 6.H7, I think he needed to follow with 10.i8 which Leela jumped on when he didn’t play it...

  • Bill LeBoeuf ★ at 2019-01-11

    I agree with Lazy that Leela can see through to the end from an early point so an early mistake is just as fatal as a later mistake.  Clearly this will improves us humans level of play :)


  • Bill LeBoeuf ★ at 2019-01-12

    I think that the most difficult move for Leela to answer by Shalev would be 25.G4 ...

  • Daniel Sepczuk at 2019-01-12

    And quick response 26.f5 

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