player rankings over the last 20 games, and all-time Game of Empathy

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player rankings over the last 20 games, and all-time
  • darse at 2012-01-23

    I've written a program that gathers the results of all past Empathy games, and ranks the players according to various scoring metrics. Please provide feedback if you'd like to see other kinds of scoring.

    The first list shows the top players over the last 20 games. The second list shows the results over all 748 recorded games to date. [Note: game #749 is now finished, but no results page was found for game #110.]

    Both lists are sorted by the win-loss average (over a minimum of 20 games). Sorting by the average number of chips won would also be reasonable, and it tends to favour the winners of the large 100-player games in the past.

    The program also produces a one-line summary for each Empathy game, but since the table is quite large, i won't post it unless there is a demand for it.

    Here are four of the scoring methods i've computed:

    1. The shared win - shared loss score.

    All the winners share the win, and all the non-winners share the loss. For example, if there were 20 players, and two of them tied for first, then the 18 non-winners would each earn -1/20 = -0.05 for the loss, and the two winners would each get 0.90/2 = +0.45 points for the win (making it a zero-sum metric). This scoring gives roughly equal weight to each game played, regardless of the number of players. Over many games, we sum a player's win-loss shares, and divide by the number of games played to get an average.

    2. The number of “chips” won.

    This model is like a poker game: everyone antes one chip to play, and the winners split the pot equally. In the previous example, each of the non-winners would net -1 chip, while the winners would net +9 chips each (they gross 10 chips, but it cost them 1 for the ante). That makes it a zero-sum total again, but winning a game with many players counts for more than winning a smaller game. Over many games, we sum the chip totals, and divide by the number of games played to get an average (also known as the “return on investment”, or ROI).

    3. The percentage of the top score achieved by the winner.

    Here we compare the player's score to the top score by the winner (thus, winners earn 100% for that game). Over many games, we sum the percentages, and divide by the number of games played to get an average.

    4. The percentage of the best possible score.

    Here we compare the player's score to the maximum score possible (i.e. the sum of the top 10 answers). [1] Since 10 unique answers still earns 10 points, i subtract 10 from both totals to get a fraction in the range 0.0 - 1.0. [2] Over many games, we sum the percentages, and divide by the number of games played to get an average.

    I do not sort the player rankings by average percentages, because that statistic depends a lot on exactly which games were played. Some wins will achieve 100% of the maximum, while other games have tough categories where the winning percentage might be only 75%, or less.

    The average winning percentage was 88.60% over the last 20 games, and has been 93.54% over all 748 games in the archive.

    Footnotes:

    [1] If no one had a perfect score, then you could argue that the best possible score was actually a little higher. I ignore that and just use the sum of the top 10 answers as the denominator.

    [2] Some players managed to score less than 10 (e.g. an incomplete entry), but they do not score below 0.0.

    For the averages, a minimum number of games is required, so that statistically meaningless results don't pollute the top of the list. If a player has played less than the minimum number of games, then their totals are divided by the minimum instead of by the actual number of games (i.e. a true Bayesian average). I've chosen a 20-game minimum, because 20 is a common number for statistical thresholds.

    For the player rankings, only the players above the zero baseline are shown (roughly the top 20%). There is a natural break at the zero expected value point, just above the many players who have only played one game.

    A total of 1529 players have played at least one game of Empathy in the past, and there were 52 participants during the last 20 games. I haven't shown the whole table because i don't want to risk causing any embarrassment to anyone. If you're not on the list, and would like to know your ranking and stats, send me a message and i'll send you the row.

  • darse at 2012-01-23
      Legend:
         rank = overall rank among all past participants
        games = number of games played
         wins = total wins and shared wins
     win-loss = total win shares minus loss shares
      w-l_avg = average win shares minus loss shares per game * 100
        chips = total chips earned over all games played (1-chip ante)
     chip_avg = average chips earned per game (1-chip ante)
      top_avg = average percentage of the top score achieved
      max_avg = average percentage of the maximum score possible
     username = player username
    Empathy Player Rankings over the last 20 games,
      sorted by win-loss average (minimum 20 games)
    rank games  wins win-loss w-l_avg  chips ch_avg top_avg max_avg  username
       1    8   3.00   +2.66  +13.31    70.00  +3.50  93.97  83.93  drbot
       2   20   3.00   +2.03  +10.16    47.00  +2.35  84.36  72.63  Elisa Kabiljo
       3   17   2.50   +1.72   +8.58    32.50  +1.62  80.35  68.75  wojtex
       4   17   2.00   +1.21   +6.04    30.00  +1.50  69.75  59.99  Finn Th. Nielsen
       5   12   1.33   +0.81   +4.07    13.67  +0.68  70.31  57.90  keith630
       6    9   1.00   +0.59   +2.97    10.00  +0.50  73.22  66.18  Barry
       7   11   1.00   +0.51   +2.55    14.00  +0.70  73.78  61.29  Bill LeBoeuf
       8   13   1.00   +0.42   +2.08    15.00  +0.75  81.95  70.63  Tom Ace
       9   14   1.00   +0.35   +1.77     1.00  +0.05  70.67  59.86  somar96
      10    1   0.33   +0.28   +1.42     5.67  +0.28 100.00  64.44  Randy J.
      11   15   1.00   +0.26   +1.32     5.00  +0.25  74.18  61.05  nonpharm
      12   19   1.00   +0.07   +0.35     0.00  +0.00  63.88  50.95  slaapgraag
      13   20   1.00   +0.03   +0.16    -7.00  -0.35  68.68  56.18  funtobewith11
      average winning percentage of the maximum score = 88.60 (over 20 games)
    
  • darse at 2012-01-23
    Empathy Player Rankings over the last 748 games,
      sorted by win-loss average (minimum 20 games)
    rank games  wins win-loss w-l_avg  chips ch_avg top_avg max_avg  username
       1    8   3.00   +2.66  +13.31    70.00  +3.50  93.97  83.93  drbot
       2  100  13.75  +12.34  +12.34   867.84  +8.68  91.55  86.78  mongoose
       3   34   3.50   +3.10   +9.12   262.00  +7.71  87.83  79.86  David Scott
       4   10   2.00   +1.75   +8.76    59.00  +2.95  81.57  76.96  Richard Lorentz
       5  477  45.05  +36.64   +7.68  2188.70  +4.59  86.78  80.96  Paavo Pirinen
       6   33   3.38   +2.30   +6.98    69.62  +2.11  73.02  67.34  ladymarius
       7  174  15.51  +10.66   +6.13   398.56  +2.29  80.81  74.89  pgf
       8   43   3.00   +2.45   +5.69   191.00  +4.44  76.27  69.86  Tasmanian Devil
       9   44   3.00   +2.46   +5.60   175.00  +3.98  82.55  77.03  Colin Hoschak II
      10   27   2.00   +1.50   +5.54    75.00  +2.78  76.84  71.19  Petko
      11  638  46.42  +31.44   +4.93  1156.70  +1.81  83.93  78.11  Elisa Kabiljo
      12  135   9.05   +6.61   +4.90   338.97  +2.51  83.72  77.98  movieloverxxl
      13   66   4.00   +3.22   +4.87   304.00  +4.61  79.00  72.70  Kellen Kooistra
      14    3   1.00   +0.97   +4.83    77.00  +3.85  80.29  75.37  lore
      15    6   1.00   +0.92   +4.62    77.00  +3.85  79.11  71.10  Ryan
      16   15   1.08   +0.91   +4.53    75.83  +3.79  78.41  73.49  Andrew Heath
      17   28   2.00   +1.27   +4.53    21.00  +0.75  74.03  68.12  aldiris
      18    9   1.00   +0.90   +4.49    89.00  +4.45  55.28  50.65  Anders H Lindberg
      19    9   1.00   +0.89   +4.43    86.00  +4.30  72.66  67.49  p_a_k_o
      20   10   1.00   +0.88   +4.41    72.00  +3.60  76.53  71.38  Grethe
      21   33   2.00   +1.44   +4.36    93.00  +2.82  76.03  70.24  alda
      22  203  11.67   +8.83   +4.35   580.35  +2.86  83.91  78.13  Robin
      23   11   1.00   +0.87   +4.35    87.00  +4.35  80.65  72.89  Reiner Martin
      24   10   1.00   +0.86   +4.28    47.00  +2.35  80.89  75.53  Carl Worth
      25  104   5.82   +4.42   +4.25   333.16  +3.20  86.25  80.68  Art Duval
      26   16   1.00   +0.83   +4.13    92.00  +4.60  83.10  76.03  Antoine
      27   14   1.00   +0.82   +4.09    49.00  +2.45  74.32  69.43  bimper2007
      28  187  11.13   +7.63   +4.08   422.81  +2.26  83.03  78.10  glasse
      29  171   9.46   +6.88   +4.02   388.49  +2.27  82.27  77.10  Thierry Wasserman
      30   40   2.00   +1.54   +3.86   156.00  +3.90  82.54  75.31  Peter van der Walle
      31  164   8.40   +6.32   +3.85   542.54  +3.31  82.72  76.85  Pawel Grabowski
      32   28   1.38   +1.07   +3.82   106.98  +3.82  76.62  70.62  Nathaniel Watson
      33   19   1.05   +0.75   +3.73    45.11  +2.26  71.63  66.69  Jonas
      34  492  29.10  +18.35   +3.73   872.18  +1.77  83.29  77.78  FatPhil
      35    9   1.00   +0.75   +3.73    28.00  +1.40  79.22  72.10  Milla Leskinen
      36   16   1.00   +0.72   +3.59    45.00  +2.25  81.46  75.70  Darius
      37   21   1.00   +0.75   +3.57    67.00  +3.19  76.35  70.99  theokratie
      38   51   3.25   +1.82   +3.57    75.50  +1.48  79.39  73.43  saimon
      39   17   1.22   +0.71   +3.54    28.24  +1.41  85.53  81.37  royalflush
      40   36   2.11   +1.27   +3.54    47.67  +1.32  78.92  73.87  Foul Ole Ron
      41   15   1.00   +0.70   +3.49    24.00  +1.20  83.37  77.15  Frank!!
      42  285  18.79   +9.78   +3.43   272.11  +0.95  83.88  77.00  wojtex
      43   12   1.08   +0.68   +3.41    21.38  +1.07  68.87  61.73  Ericos
      44   12   1.00   +0.68   +3.38    25.00  +1.25  86.91  80.18  Sepe Ahtosalo
      45  114   6.53   +3.85   +3.38   171.80  +1.51  79.93  73.88  Charlo
      46   22   1.00   +0.74   +3.35    58.00  +2.64  69.60  65.79  forgret
      47   51   3.11   +1.69   +3.32    70.67  +1.39  77.25  72.75  dgreene11235
      48   20   1.00   +0.66   +3.30    41.00  +2.05  72.14  64.83  Benjamin Hellouin
      49   67   3.06   +2.21   +3.30   199.50  +2.98  87.76  81.50  Bryan
      50   50   2.32   +1.63   +3.26   107.63  +2.15  87.45  83.06  Svraka
    
  • darse at 2012-01-23
      51   22   1.00   +0.66   +2.99    68.00  +3.09  81.53  75.67  Dvd Avins
      52  557  30.20  +16.55   +2.97   562.91  +1.01  78.84  72.93  slaapgraag
      53  238  10.26   +7.01   +2.95   581.70  +2.44  84.99  79.87  Ed Collins
      54   89   4.50   +2.58   +2.90   198.50  +2.23  81.46  74.24  Szandor
      55   39   2.00   +1.13   +2.89    59.00  +1.51  79.28  73.29  Schaapmans
      56   16   1.00   +0.57   +2.85    17.00  +0.85  84.76  79.41  Jonatan Rydh
      57   84   3.88   +2.38   +2.83   177.45  +2.11  75.12  71.33  lauro
      58   24   1.00   +0.67   +2.80    38.00  +1.58  73.40  68.37  mslano
      59   42   2.00   +1.16   +2.76    55.00  +1.31  56.43  50.21  Johann Snyman
      60   26   1.00   +0.70   +2.71    68.00  +2.62  75.52  67.87  tony z.
      61   67   4.33   +1.77   +2.64    52.67  +0.79  71.36  61.34  nemrac
      62   52   2.87   +1.36   +2.62    42.22  +0.81  74.65  69.34  kfiecio
      63  284  10.80   +7.05   +2.48   567.14  +2.00  79.20  73.72  anwi
      64   30   1.08   +0.74   +2.48    46.83  +1.56  61.73  56.12  Piotr Karas
      65   24   1.00   +0.59   +2.46    31.00  +1.29  63.97  58.14  Brancas
      66   64   2.25   +1.50   +2.34   109.75  +1.71  74.75  67.77  BIG BAD WOLF
      67  370  15.87   +8.43   +2.28   489.32  +1.32  79.86  74.51  MichaeI X
      68   44   1.50   +0.98   +2.23    88.00  +2.00  81.26  74.57  Trevor Green
      69  536  25.70  +11.92   +2.22   446.62  +0.83  81.18  75.01  MarleysGhost
      70   55   2.00   +1.22   +2.22    66.00  +1.20  76.51  72.33  Timo Laitinen
      71  321  12.49   +6.82   +2.13   382.31  +1.19  79.84  74.38  Jaakko Pirinen
      72   27   1.08   +0.56   +2.09    18.17  +0.67  84.74  78.80  Ola Mikael Hansson
      73   31   1.00   +0.64   +2.06    56.00  +1.81  77.37  70.10  Woff
      74   45   1.50   +0.92   +2.04    77.50  +1.72  76.57  69.71  Marco (DeSangre)
      75   32   1.00   +0.64   +1.99    73.00  +2.28  71.38  66.46  j
      76  281   9.53   +5.53   +1.97   388.23  +1.38  77.56  72.31  unsusto
      77   32   1.00   +0.62   +1.93    70.00  +2.19  71.59  64.75  George
      78    4   0.50   +0.38   +1.88    12.50  +0.62  72.36  67.15  mirror_man2
      79  176   6.17   +3.27   +1.86   198.93  +1.13  81.58  76.62  Xander (xandern .BSW)
      80   33   1.00   +0.61   +1.86    55.00  +1.67  64.57  58.73  jaz
      81   66   2.00   +1.17   +1.78    90.00  +1.36  63.95  58.96  daisy
      82   16   1.00   +0.35   +1.76     9.00  +0.45  62.37  50.84  Bill LeBoeuf
      83   12   0.50   +0.35   +1.74    28.00  +1.40  65.94  61.76  I'm back
      84  142   6.23   +2.45   +1.73   100.76  +0.71  73.39  67.55  blargdragon
      85   35   1.00   +0.58   +1.67    29.00  +0.83  77.80  72.92  Francois
      86   10   0.50   +0.33   +1.66    21.00  +1.05  67.50  64.50  Peter Koning
      87  106   3.00   +1.66   +1.57   102.00  +0.96  72.81  67.30  Pleasance
      88  110   3.50   +1.70   +1.55    89.00  +0.81  71.29  65.23  Ahmed al-Faqi
      89   38   1.00   +0.56   +1.48    57.00  +1.50  72.89  66.17  Richard
      90  384  11.77   +5.65   +1.47   388.55  +1.01  82.60  76.88  passenger
      91  153   4.91   +2.24   +1.46   169.69  +1.11  79.44  74.20  sean_henderson
      92   40   1.05   +0.58   +1.45    44.65  +1.12  63.76  58.08  Kendra Powell
      93  166   5.00   +2.15   +1.30    91.00  +0.55  80.13  75.03  meanguy
      94  182   5.39   +2.20   +1.21    41.88  +0.23  71.94  66.55  James A. Cook (Falsifian)
      95   32   1.05   +0.37   +1.16    14.65  +0.46  72.49  68.36  maraca
      96   59   1.40   +0.69   +1.16    52.17  +0.88  83.23  76.56  magicode
      97   43   1.00   +0.48   +1.11    47.00  +1.09  65.00  60.46  diosmalos
      98   44   1.00   +0.47   +1.06    29.00  +0.66  69.18  62.92  Hibernator
      99   47   1.00   +0.46   +0.97    42.00  +0.89  63.45  58.07  Yvonne
     100   44   1.00   +0.43   +0.97    15.00  +0.34  78.32  72.82  LV
    
  • darse at 2012-01-23
     101   35   1.02   +0.33   +0.93    -2.16  -0.06  72.20  68.29  metaldragon
     102   43   1.00   +0.37   +0.85    -2.00  -0.05  67.19  63.47  NotMasclins
     103  103   2.33   +0.84   +0.81    83.67  +0.81  63.20  57.56  Patrick Moore
     104   48   1.00   +0.37   +0.77    53.00  +1.10  87.03  82.39  michael
     105   90   2.05   +0.69   +0.76    55.11  +0.61  69.19  63.82  kuikka
     106  366   8.40   +2.56   +0.70   267.96  +0.73  75.65  70.55  euhuang
     107   61   2.00   +0.42   +0.69    17.00  +0.28  76.13  70.29  Phil The Hat
     108  355   8.12   +2.38   +0.67   176.67  +0.50  77.01  71.93  kpato
     109  158   3.00   +1.03   +0.65    89.50  +0.57  75.72  69.70  Rick Landis
     110   82   1.55   +0.51   +0.63    58.65  +0.72  75.65  70.32  Matthias
     111  114   2.08   +0.69   +0.60    50.92  +0.45  73.02  67.05  Syl
     112  149   5.26   +0.81   +0.55    28.97  +0.19  79.82  73.87  Orbilin
     113    1   0.12   +0.10   +0.51     4.62  +0.23 100.00 100.00  neilh23
     114   53   1.04   +0.26   +0.49    33.41  +0.63  73.73  68.27  ishida
     115  247   5.17   +1.15   +0.47   185.23  +0.75  78.21  72.49  Dustin
     116  115   2.00   +0.52   +0.46    -2.50  -0.02  67.68  61.82  Fez
     117   62   1.00   +0.28   +0.45    31.00  +0.50  74.02  67.75  Henrik Sjøl
     118   92   1.69   +0.41   +0.44    26.28  +0.29  76.39  71.55  Belen B
     119   52   1.00   +0.22   +0.43    41.00  +0.79  60.99  56.32  Robert Irvin
     120   48   1.75   +0.20   +0.42    17.75  +0.37  78.22  70.01  Tom Ace
     121   63   1.05   +0.26   +0.41    20.65  +0.33  82.87  76.54  Salla
     122   74   1.65   +0.30   +0.41    25.42  +0.34  79.25  73.71  Mathias
     123  146   2.55   +0.57   +0.39    47.53  +0.33  62.45  58.00  Michal Piszczalka(piszczyk)
     124  349   6.34   +1.33   +0.38   123.61  +0.35  71.40  66.15  Sheila
     125  248   5.15   +0.89   +0.36    83.51  +0.34  76.28  70.56  Jeppe Snell
     126  118   2.00   +0.40   +0.34    58.00  +0.49  59.71  55.00  Anton Maslo
     127  322   9.42   +1.06   +0.33    61.80  +0.19  72.91  66.49  Hjallti
     128  104   3.75   +0.33   +0.32    13.56  +0.13  70.58  63.29  omike
     129   69   1.12   +0.21   +0.31     8.58  +0.12  63.10  58.33  YSC
     130  270   5.55   +0.79   +0.29    49.95  +0.18  74.03  68.83  Ricardo (Santos)
     131   99   1.50   +0.25   +0.25    35.00  +0.35  67.66  61.48  Hartmut
     132   68   1.00   +0.14   +0.20    18.00  +0.26  76.84  71.00  wandu
     133   19   0.25   +0.04   +0.20     2.75  +0.14  68.15  61.95  pulsifer
     134   29   1.00   +0.06   +0.20     3.00  +0.10  64.98  57.75  gothnerd
     135   79   1.12   +0.16   +0.20    20.38  +0.26  75.31  69.59  Zoria
     136  379   6.59   +0.73   +0.19    92.44  +0.24  78.00  72.63  Bill Collins
     137  146   2.40   +0.25   +0.17   -63.82  -0.44  73.05  68.20  Ray Garrison
     138   63   1.04   +0.10   +0.16   -18.25  -0.29  65.39  60.96  Gregorlo
     139   22   0.62   +0.02   +0.11     0.00  +0.00  83.88  78.52  Hurricane_Power
     140    4   0.09   +0.02   +0.08     1.64  +0.08  77.28  74.36  rodrigo
     141  231   5.09   +0.15   +0.06    10.64  +0.05  78.36  73.33  Micco
     142  370  10.24   +0.23   +0.06   -19.37  -0.05  73.80  67.48  Paul Gautherot
     143  348   6.60   +0.19   +0.05    27.46  +0.08  77.29  71.61  klaashaas
     144   78   1.04   +0.04   +0.05   -26.59  -0.34  63.02  57.50  MeanRat
     145  101   1.56   +0.02   +0.02    36.50  +0.36  67.29  62.27  t0mski
     146   11   0.33   -0.00   -0.00    -0.67  -0.03  81.46  75.30  JeanHebert
     147   40   1.25   -0.01   -0.02    -0.75  -0.02  71.89  63.94  Burton
     148    3   0.04   -0.01   -0.03    -0.25  -0.01  77.68  74.66  vrede
    
  • darse at 2012-01-23
      average winning percentage of the maximum score = 93.54 (over 748 games)
    
  • darse at 2012-02-02

    Here is an up-to-date “golf scorecard” for the last 18 games.

    This one is a little different from mongoose's golf scorecard. If a player didn't play in a game, they are given a last-place rank (i.e. number of players in that game plus one), instead of “infinity”. Only the top 22 players are listed here.

    Does anyone care about these stats?

    Finishes over the last 18 games:
      maximum rank:  16  21  21  22  26  17  20  27  32  29  20  22  27  24  21  23  24  28
    Rank  Sum  Back9          Rank for each game:
                      1   2   3   4   5   6   7   8   9  10  11  12  13  14  15  16  17  18
       1  107   56    4   4   2   1   7   5  13   5  10  17  11   2   1   1   1   6  10   7   Elisa Kabiljo
       2  137   59   16   5   5   1  26   1   3   6  15  11  10  14   1   3   1   3   1  15   wojtex
       3  145   81   13  14   3   7   9   2  10   4   2  12  12   7  15  10  10   2  12   1   Hjallti
       4  163   84   12  12   9   6   5  17   5  11   2   7   9   5   9   9   4   9  13  19   MarleysGhost
       5  178   33   16  21  21  22  26  17  20   1   1   2   7   1   3   5   6   3   3   3   drbot
       6  181   79    9   1   4  10  13   7  14  21  23   3  13   8   5  14   9  18   5   4   nemrac
       7  196   87   16   5   5  13  12  12  17   8  21  14   7   3  18  10   8  19   2   6   Yoti
       8  215  114    2   9  16   4  18  11  12  17  12   9  16   5  20   4  14  12  16  18   funtobewith11
       9  222  122   16  21   8  22   2   3   8   6  14   1   3  12  22   8   5  23  20  28   Tom Ace
      10  226   99   15  10  20   3  23   6   7  27  16  22   1  13  17  21  13   3   7   2   slaapgraag
      11  231  111   16   5  11  22   1  10  20  27   8  26  20  17  10   5  10   8   3  12   Bill LeBoeuf
      12  232  127   16   1  21  11  16  17   1   3  19   3   6  15   4  20  21  23  24  11   keith630
      13  237  126    4  17  19   9  14   7  20  13   8  28   4  22  14   7  12  15   7  17   Finn Th. Nielsen
      14  262  133   16  21  18  22   4  13   9  10  16  12  18  11   8  16  17  20  15  16   lrreiche
      15  269  126    8  18  12  15  24  15  10  25  16  18  15   3  20   1  21  17  17  14   Dasher
      16  272  192    7  14   1  12   6   3  18  15   4   6  17  22  27  24  21  23  24  28   nonpharm
      17  279  124    6  10  10  19  26  17  14  22  31  18  13  15  12  14  18  10  14  10   Dionysos
      18  279  199    1   8  14   8  15   9   2  13  10  24  20  22  16  24  21  21  24  27   somar96
      19  306  124   16  21  21  22  26  17  14  16  29  23   2   9   7  18  14   7  18  26   thomsen nielsen
      20  311  167   14  13  15  21  19  14   4  19  25  21  19  20  23  23   7  12  21  21   roxann
      21  312  139   16  21  17  20   8  17  20  27  27  25  20  17   6  12  21  23   7   8   blitzkrieg_
      22  315  161    3  19  21  18  21  17  19  17  19  27   5  22  13  22  20   1  23  28   ypercube
    
  • slaapgraag at 2012-02-02

    Yeah, nice work. To be honest, I care most about the golfcard, actually. (Lat-place rank is an improvement). Now I need to put a little extra work on emapthy now! ;-)

  • Elisa Kabiljo at 2012-02-02

    I like statistic. When I started to play Empathy, at first I played only some interesting games. Mongoose statistic was main reason for me to play every game, and then I got addicted.

    Now main problem with empathy is small number of players - only 39 in last 7 games. Game is more interesting when there is lot of players. Also first 10 places from 30 players don't have same weight as first 10 places from 100 players. If yours statistic can attract more players to Empathy, it will be great. If you know some other ways to attract more players, it will be great too.

    nice work

  • darse at 2012-02-08

    I have no idea if this will work not, but i'll give it a try…

    I modified the program to spit out a bunch of HTML code, hoping that it will produce a golf scorecard table, in a style similar to the Little Golem tournament crosstables. Here goes nuthin':

    Empathy finishes over the last 18 games

    Empathy finishes over the last 18 games

    Empathy finishes over the last 18 games

    Finish date: February 6, 2012212226172027322920222724212324282524maximum rankRankSumBack9123456789101112131415161718Player Name11013021751351017112111610711Elisa Kabiljo2142645126136151110141313115251wojtex31432621222617201127135633311drbot4148779651751127959949131945MarleysGhost515897379210421212715101021212317Hjallti

    [cringe]

  • darse at 2012-02-08

    Well, that sucks. :-/

    It looked fine on my browser preview, but now the header has gone mad.

    It also rejects the post if it is any larger than 5 rows. I'll play with it tomorrow and see if i can do better…

  • darse at 2012-02-08

    Meanwhile, may as well finish showing the current top 10 with this broken version.

    Empathy finishes over the last 18 games

    Empathy finishes over the last 18 games

    Finish date: February 6, 2012212226172027322920222724212324282524maximum rankRankSumBack9123456789101112131415161718Player Name618880410137142123313851491854314nemrac719081513121217821147318108192678Yoti81961298222386141312228523202865Tom Ace92301151641811121712916520414121618224funtobewith111023110620323672716221131721133721218slaapgraag

  • darse at 2012-02-08

    And here are some stats on the top players over the past 50 games (this time in glorious plain text!).

    This list is sorted by the average _percentage of the winning score_ (using a true Bayesian average toward the mean if the player has less than 20 games). All three metrics give pretty similar rankings, and the top spot is the same for all of them… (That would be, erm… me :-)

    Empathy Player Rankings over the last 50 games,
      sorted by average percentage of the top score (minimum 20 games)
      Legend:
         rank = overall rank among all past participants
        games = number of games played
         wins = total wins and shared wins
     win-loss = total win shares minus loss shares
      w-l_avg = average win shares minus loss shares per game * 100
        chips = total chips earned over all games played (1-chip ante)
     chip_avg = average chips earned per game (1-chip ante)
      top_avg = average percentage of the top score achieved
      max_avg = average percentage of the maximum score possible
     username = player username
    rank games  wins win-loss w-l_avg  chips ch_avg top_avg max_avg  username
       1   13   3.83   +3.28  +16.42    84.67  +4.23  94.86  86.16  drbot
       2   45   8.70   +6.93  +15.39   190.13  +4.23  85.80  75.89  wojtex
       3   50   7.45   +5.41  +10.83   151.38  +3.03  85.26  75.69  Elisa Kabiljo
       4   48   5.54   +3.59   +7.48   108.83  +2.27  83.42  73.32  MarleysGhost
       5   28   1.50   +0.36   +1.30    16.00  +0.57  81.25  70.90  Tom Ace
       6    5   0.08   -0.08   -0.40    -2.62  -0.13  91.84  88.44  passenger
       7   38   1.62   +0.12   +0.32    -5.78  -0.15  74.60  64.48  somar96
       8   10   0.04   -0.26   -1.31    -8.17  -0.41  78.06  69.89  klaashaas
       9   10   0.50   +0.09   +0.43     3.00  +0.15  78.05  66.59  saimon
      10   49   3.33   +1.34   +2.73    40.67  +0.83  74.41  64.21  nemrac
      11   47   1.29   -0.66   -1.40   -10.92  -0.23  74.31  63.93  Hjallti
      12    5   0.54   +0.40   +1.98    11.83  +0.59  82.99  75.30  Got Twixt
      13   21   1.37   +0.66   +3.13    15.47  +0.74  73.57  66.90  Jos
      14   18   0.00   -0.74   -3.70   -18.00  -0.90  73.53  64.36  Paul Gautherot
      15    6   0.54   +0.36   +1.81    10.83  +0.54  78.43  69.71  Aaron Coombs
      16    5   0.04   -0.10   -0.52    -3.17  -0.16  79.63  72.37  zwack
      17    4   0.00   -0.12   -0.60    -4.00  -0.20  81.46  73.45  Robert Mathew
      18    4   0.04   -0.08   -0.38    -2.17  -0.11  81.00  71.19  sean_henderson
      19    4   0.00   -0.12   -0.62    -4.00  -0.20  80.59  72.08  damasceno
      20    2   0.00   -0.05   -0.27    -2.00  -0.10  89.42  88.36  narayan
      21   45   2.00   +0.14   +0.30    -4.00  -0.09  72.76  62.07  slaapgraag
      22    2   0.04   -0.01   -0.07    -0.17  -0.01  85.71  79.41  Stella Chui
      23    1   0.33   +0.28   +1.42     5.67  +0.28 100.00  64.44  Randy J.
      24    1   0.04   +0.02   +0.09     0.83  +0.04 100.00 100.00  Ray Garrison
      25    1   0.04   +0.02   +0.09     0.83  +0.04 100.00 100.00  Antonio
    
  • MarleysGhost at 2012-02-08

    There must be a way to post more than 5 rows as a table. RoRoRo does it when he posts ratings-based probabilities of winning a championship.

  • Aganju at 2012-02-09

    About the head issue: when you post a table, the page collects all line breaks (the br stuff) from all cells, and places them all before the table itself. Don't ask me why.

    Just enter the table without line breaks.

  • Aganju at 2012-02-09

    My player page also has more than five lines in atable. It does work.

  • darse at 2012-02-09

    Thanks Aganju. I was being lazy, just copying RoRoRo's template; but the quick 'n dirty approach was too dirty, and not very quick either… ;-p

    I'm generating a much leaner table now (less formatting fluff), so hopefully the next update will look a little better.

    [Also, RoRoRo is a full member, and might have more generous posting limits.]

  • darse at 2012-02-09

    Okay, trying for a new level of fail… :-)

    Empathy finishes over the last 18 games

    Last updated: February 9, 2012

    For expression: “star wars”

  • darse at 2012-02-09

    RankPlayer NameSumBk91234567891011121314151617181Elisa Kabiljo10029175135101711211161071112drbot1232622261720112713563331113wojtex1385112613615111014131311525114MarleysGhost1437665175112795994913194545Hjallti17511079210421212715101021212317206nemrac1917910137142123313851491854314760maximum rank431216222617202732292022272421232428252420

  • darse at 2012-02-09

    RankPlayer NameSumBk91234567891011121314151617187Tom Ace19512422238614131222852320286578Yoti1999213121217821147318108192678149slaapgraag2311133236727162211317211337212182010funtobewith11232128418111217129165204141216182241811Bill LeBoeuf24190221102027826201710510831211151612Finn Th. Nielsen24211791472013828422147121571719161013lrreiche242127224139101612181181617201516991714Dasher2561151524151025161815320121171714127615keith630261170111617131936154202123241125222060maximum rank431216222617202732292022272421232428252420

  • darse at 2012-02-09

    RankPlayer NameSumBk912345678910111213141516171816Dionysos2921171926171422311813151214181014108191217thomsen nielsen2961382226171416292329718147182616122018blitzkrieg_3091282081720272725201761221237821102019nonpharm3192161263181546172227242123242825242020somar9632520281592131024202216242121242725242021ypercube328163182117191719275221322201232824131922roxann329167211914419252119202323712212117232060maximum rank431216222617202732292022272421232428252420

  • darse at 2012-02-09

    Still struggling with the size…

    The first table is larger because the game numbers have hover-over tags and links to the corresponding game. I assume that is worthwhile?

  • darse at 2012-02-09

    The full table is posted on the drbot player profile:

    http://www.littlegolem.net/jsp/info/player.jsp?plid=26854

    Should i post updates here (for a permanent record), or just point to it whenever it's updated?

  • MarleysGhost at 2012-02-10

    IMHO, just having a current golf card is sufficient.

    Is drbot's play in GoE fully automated?

  • darse at 2012-02-10

    No, for Empathy drbot is mostly me, although i have done some scripting to process Google results as a “bag of words”. (Not especially useful it turns out – that's how i came up with the Nobel Prize committee (1) lemon).

    My policy is that any computer-assisted games go under drbot (e.g. human/computer centaur, drei-hirn, etc.). Empathy is an edge case, but since i started the first game with drbot, i've just continued to use it for that. This way i can use an algorithm for certain categories with a clear conscience. If the expression is ever “coolest 20-digit prime numbers”, i'll be all over it! :)

  • darse at 2012-02-13

    Congrats to MarleysGhost on a nice win, with a perfect top-10 score!

    That moves MG up to 3rd place on the golf scorecard. I'm closing in on Elisa for the top spot, with three non-games still to be swapped out (i've played 15 games so far).

    Please see the drbot player profile (link above) for a more complete table.

    Empathy finishes over the last 18 games (“golf scorecard”)

    Last updated: February 12, 2012

    For the expression: “favorite beverage”

  • darse at 2012-02-13

    RankPlayer NameSumBk91234567891011121314151617181Elisa Kabiljo10332751351017112111610711142drbot104262617201127135633311133MarleysGhost1386851751127959949131945414wojtex1435626136151110141313115251165Tom Ace18711623861413122285232028657146Hjallti195122921042121271510102121231720277Yoti1978512121782114731810819267814118nemrac19992137142123313851491854314718

  • darse at 2012-02-13

    RankPlayer NameSumBk91234567891011121314151617189Bill LeBoeuf2218211020278262017105108312111516210lrreiche233132413910161218118161720151699171311funtobewith11237117181112171291652041412161822418912slaapgraag25111923672716221131721133721218202313Dasher2571112415102516181532012117171412761614Finn Th. Nielsen258128147201382842214712157171916102515keith630277193161713193615420212324112522202716Dionysos278110261714223118131512141810141081912562maximum rank436216261720273229202227242123242825242027

  • darse at 2012-02-13

    RankPlayer NameSumBk912345678910111213141516171817thomsen nielsen3011582617141629232971814718261612202718blitzkrieg_3131468172027272520176122123782110202419ypercube324164211719171927522132220123282413191420roxann327163191441925211920232371221211723201921nonpharm3342166318154617222724212324282524202762maximum rank436216261720273229202227242123242825242027

  • darse at 2012-02-16

    Congrats to MarleysGhost for a second consecutive clear win!

    And welcome back to stevo.h, whose last game of Empathy was more than three years ago. No signs of rust, as he finished in a strong third place!

    This was a tough category. The top answer, “dollar”, was chosen by only 14 of the 23 players, and the top ten answers comprised only 40% of all answers. [That might be an interesting stat to add to the game summaries, as a measure of how “spread out” the answers were…]

    On the golf card, i muscled into the top spot, and wojtex moved into third, as we both swapped out a 26-point “did-not-play”.

    Empathy finishes over the last 18 games (“golf scorecard”)

    Last updated: February 15, 2012

    For the expression: “names for money”

  • darse at 2012-02-16

    RankPlayer NameSumBk91234567891011121314151617181drbot8023172011271356333111322Elisa Kabiljo10439513510171121116107111483wojtex126621361511101413131152511694MarleysGhost1346017511279599491319454115Yoti191811217821147318108192678141166Tom Ace197120386141312228523202865714127nemrac203957142123313851491854314718178Hjallti210136210421212715101021212317202724

  • darse at 2012-02-16

    RankPlayer NameSumBk91234567891011121314151617189slaapgraag2351056727162211317211337212182023710Bill LeBoeuf23895102027826201710510831211151621811funtobewith11238132111217129165204141216182241891912Dasher2451221510251618153201211717141276161213Finn Th. Nielsen24812572013828422147121571719161025414lrreiche2501371391016121811816172015169917132115Dionysos274118171422311813151214181014108191252216keith630285197171319361542021232411252220272417thomsen nielsen2991641714162923297181471826161220272418blitzkrieg_31514417202727252017612212378211020241019roxann322154144192521192023237122121172320191420ypercube326165171917192752213222012328241319142362maximum rank434216172027322920222724212324282524202724

  • slaapgraag at 2012-02-17

    Well, no more 'empathy for fun'. Now darse managed the new golfcard, it's gonna be 'hardcore GOE'….

  • darse at 2012-02-17

    But you're already at the top of the table…

    Oh, you mean you're going to go for the *first* table? ;-)

  • darse at 2012-02-19

    The latest game was pretty tough, but not among the toughest (outside the top 50).

    game plrs  1s  1pp  Ws  top_an  top10 top/max       category / expression  [ winner ]
     758  25   83  3.32  1   72.00  34.00  85.33                           go  [ drbot ]
    

    72% of players had the top answer (game), but only 44% of players had the second

    most common answer (stone). There was an average of 3.3 unique answers per player.

    It seems that players either went with “go” as a verb, or went with “go” as a game,

    without much mixing between the two. I started with leave (8) and away (7), but

    soon rejected all of the verb associations (assuming the LG bias toward the game

    would be huge). I was totally wrong, but still managed to come out on top!

    For the golf scorecard, my back-9 tally is a fairly decent 18 (18 under par:).

    For the round, i have a score of 44 as i stroll onto the 18th tee…

    @Tiger: eat your heart out. :-)

    Empathy finishes over the last 18 games (“golf scorecard”)

    Last updated: February 18, 2012

    For the expression: “go”

  • darse at 2012-02-19

    RankPlayer NameSumBk91234567891011121314151617181drbot641820112713563331113212Elisa Kabiljo10847135101711211161071114893MarleysGhost119585112795994913194541124wojtex130663615111014131311525116955Yoti18175178211473181081926781411626Tom Ace202123861413122285232028657141287nemrac203931421233138514918543147181778slaapgraag2339672716221131721133721218202374

  • darse at 2012-02-19

    RankPlayer NameSumBk91234567891011121314151617189Hjallti234152104212127151010212123172027242610Bill LeBoeuf24198202782620171051083121115162181311Dasher2451161025161815320121171714127616121512Finn Th. Nielsen24611820138284221471215717191610254513lrreiche2511349101612181181617201516991713211414funtobewith11252143121712916520414121618224189192515Dionysos274117142231181315121418101410819125221716keith630286194131936154202123241125222027241817thomsen nielsen3081761416292329718147182616122027242618blitzkrieg_32214720272725201761221237821102024102419roxann328167419252119202323712212117232019142020ypercube329165191719275221322201232824131914232062maximum rank443221202732292022272421232428252420272426

  • slaapgraag at 2012-02-20

    ….and back to the top box! Elisa, watch out! I'll be back… ;-)

  • Elisa Kabiljo at 2012-02-20

    Now, I'm not one to compare with. You have to compare with drbot!

  • darse at 2012-02-21

    Five winners in the repeat category (game #507), including previous

    winners Elisa and wojtex, but not including previous winner slaapgraag.

    Previous participant funtobewith11 also improved to first place, by

    naming the 10 (Latin genus) classifications for “types of clouds”.

    Personally, i would have preferred things like fluffy (2), dark (3),

    and storm (6), but that wasn't where the money was.

    I complete the “round” with a final tally of 45, including 16 on the

    back-9, but the accomplishment is eroded by the repeated expressions

    (some of which i failed to notice).

    Empathy finishes over the last 18 games (“golf scorecard”)

    Last updated: February 21, 2012

    For the expression: “types of clouds”

  • darse at 2012-02-21

    RankPlayer NameSumBk91234567891011121314151617181drbot45161127135633311132112Elisa Kabiljo964251017112111610711148913wojtex128646151110141313115251169514MarleysGhost1306511279599491319454112165Yoti17668821147318108192678141162126nemrac199852123313851491854314718177107Tom Ace2051116141312228523202865714128118Bill LeBoeuf2381072782620171051083121115162181317

  • darse at 2012-02-21

    RankPlayer NameSumBk91234567891011121314151617189funtobewith1124113217129165204141216182241891925110slaapgraag24511227162211317211337212182023741911Hjallti246172421212715101021212317202724262212Finn Th. Nielsen24812513828422147121571719161025452213Dasher2501142516181532012117171412761612151514lrreiche26013210161218118161720151699171321141815Dionysos26911622311813151214181014108191252217916keith6303071933193615420212324112522202724182217thomsen nielsen3161911629232971814718261612202724262218blitzkrieg_32414627272520176122123782110202410242219ypercube329183171927522132220123282413191423201920roxann3381691925211920232371221211723201914201462maximum rank445220273229202227242123242825242027242622

  • slaapgraag at 2012-02-22

    yeah, i knew this was a repeat, but I havn't figured out how to find the answers on the games not listed on 'past games' (not knowing the #number). I just copied the first 10 wiki-names. Got me 10 points :-(

  • darse at 2012-02-22

    To get the game number, just search for the expression on the list of previous topics that i posted (or on mongoose's “time machine” list). Then go to that LG previous game page, editing the end of the URL to insert the right game number. (Older games aren't linked to on the past 60 games page, but the pages do exist).

  • MarleysGhost at 2012-02-22

    > the list of previous topics that i posted

    Where was that posted, again?

  • darse at 2012-02-22

    It's in the “repeated repeats” thread:

    http://www.littlegolem.net/jsp/forum/topic2.jsp?forum=200&topic=448

    The mongoose list for the first 601 games is at:

    http://www.tavislee.com/goe/timemachine

  • slaapgraag at 2012-02-27

    Let the repeated games begin!

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