player rankings over the last 20 games, and all-time Game of Empathy
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darse at 2012-01-23
I've written a program that gathers the results of all past Empathy games, and ranks the players according to various scoring metrics. Please provide feedback if you'd like to see other kinds of scoring.
The first list shows the top players over the last 20 games. The second list shows the results over all 748 recorded games to date. [Note: game #749 is now finished, but no results page was found for game #110.]
Both lists are sorted by the win-loss average (over a minimum of 20 games). Sorting by the average number of chips won would also be reasonable, and it tends to favour the winners of the large 100-player games in the past.
The program also produces a one-line summary for each Empathy game, but since the table is quite large, i won't post it unless there is a demand for it.
Here are four of the scoring methods i've computed:
1. The shared win - shared loss score.
All the winners share the win, and all the non-winners share the loss. For example, if there were 20 players, and two of them tied for first, then the 18 non-winners would each earn -1/20 = -0.05 for the loss, and the two winners would each get 0.90/2 = +0.45 points for the win (making it a zero-sum metric). This scoring gives roughly equal weight to each game played, regardless of the number of players. Over many games, we sum a player's win-loss shares, and divide by the number of games played to get an average.
2. The number of “chips” won.
This model is like a poker game: everyone antes one chip to play, and the winners split the pot equally. In the previous example, each of the non-winners would net -1 chip, while the winners would net +9 chips each (they gross 10 chips, but it cost them 1 for the ante). That makes it a zero-sum total again, but winning a game with many players counts for more than winning a smaller game. Over many games, we sum the chip totals, and divide by the number of games played to get an average (also known as the “return on investment”, or ROI).
3. The percentage of the top score achieved by the winner.
Here we compare the player's score to the top score by the winner (thus, winners earn 100% for that game). Over many games, we sum the percentages, and divide by the number of games played to get an average.
4. The percentage of the best possible score.
Here we compare the player's score to the maximum score possible (i.e. the sum of the top 10 answers). [1] Since 10 unique answers still earns 10 points, i subtract 10 from both totals to get a fraction in the range 0.0 - 1.0. [2] Over many games, we sum the percentages, and divide by the number of games played to get an average.
I do not sort the player rankings by average percentages, because that statistic depends a lot on exactly which games were played. Some wins will achieve 100% of the maximum, while other games have tough categories where the winning percentage might be only 75%, or less.
The average winning percentage was 88.60% over the last 20 games, and has been 93.54% over all 748 games in the archive.
Footnotes:
[1] If no one had a perfect score, then you could argue that the best possible score was actually a little higher. I ignore that and just use the sum of the top 10 answers as the denominator.
[2] Some players managed to score less than 10 (e.g. an incomplete entry), but they do not score below 0.0.
For the averages, a minimum number of games is required, so that statistically meaningless results don't pollute the top of the list. If a player has played less than the minimum number of games, then their totals are divided by the minimum instead of by the actual number of games (i.e. a true Bayesian average). I've chosen a 20-game minimum, because 20 is a common number for statistical thresholds.
For the player rankings, only the players above the zero baseline are shown (roughly the top 20%). There is a natural break at the zero expected value point, just above the many players who have only played one game.
A total of 1529 players have played at least one game of Empathy in the past, and there were 52 participants during the last 20 games. I haven't shown the whole table because i don't want to risk causing any embarrassment to anyone. If you're not on the list, and would like to know your ranking and stats, send me a message and i'll send you the row.
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darse at 2012-01-23
Legend: rank = overall rank among all past participants games = number of games played wins = total wins and shared wins win-loss = total win shares minus loss shares w-l_avg = average win shares minus loss shares per game * 100 chips = total chips earned over all games played (1-chip ante) chip_avg = average chips earned per game (1-chip ante) top_avg = average percentage of the top score achieved max_avg = average percentage of the maximum score possible username = player username Empathy Player Rankings over the last 20 games, sorted by win-loss average (minimum 20 games) rank games wins win-loss w-l_avg chips ch_avg top_avg max_avg username 1 8 3.00 +2.66 +13.31 70.00 +3.50 93.97 83.93 drbot 2 20 3.00 +2.03 +10.16 47.00 +2.35 84.36 72.63 Elisa Kabiljo 3 17 2.50 +1.72 +8.58 32.50 +1.62 80.35 68.75 wojtex 4 17 2.00 +1.21 +6.04 30.00 +1.50 69.75 59.99 Finn Th. Nielsen 5 12 1.33 +0.81 +4.07 13.67 +0.68 70.31 57.90 keith630 6 9 1.00 +0.59 +2.97 10.00 +0.50 73.22 66.18 Barry 7 11 1.00 +0.51 +2.55 14.00 +0.70 73.78 61.29 Bill LeBoeuf 8 13 1.00 +0.42 +2.08 15.00 +0.75 81.95 70.63 Tom Ace 9 14 1.00 +0.35 +1.77 1.00 +0.05 70.67 59.86 somar96 10 1 0.33 +0.28 +1.42 5.67 +0.28 100.00 64.44 Randy J. 11 15 1.00 +0.26 +1.32 5.00 +0.25 74.18 61.05 nonpharm 12 19 1.00 +0.07 +0.35 0.00 +0.00 63.88 50.95 slaapgraag 13 20 1.00 +0.03 +0.16 -7.00 -0.35 68.68 56.18 funtobewith11 average winning percentage of the maximum score = 88.60 (over 20 games)
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darse at 2012-01-23
Empathy Player Rankings over the last 748 games, sorted by win-loss average (minimum 20 games) rank games wins win-loss w-l_avg chips ch_avg top_avg max_avg username 1 8 3.00 +2.66 +13.31 70.00 +3.50 93.97 83.93 drbot 2 100 13.75 +12.34 +12.34 867.84 +8.68 91.55 86.78 mongoose 3 34 3.50 +3.10 +9.12 262.00 +7.71 87.83 79.86 David Scott 4 10 2.00 +1.75 +8.76 59.00 +2.95 81.57 76.96 Richard Lorentz 5 477 45.05 +36.64 +7.68 2188.70 +4.59 86.78 80.96 Paavo Pirinen 6 33 3.38 +2.30 +6.98 69.62 +2.11 73.02 67.34 ladymarius 7 174 15.51 +10.66 +6.13 398.56 +2.29 80.81 74.89 pgf 8 43 3.00 +2.45 +5.69 191.00 +4.44 76.27 69.86 Tasmanian Devil 9 44 3.00 +2.46 +5.60 175.00 +3.98 82.55 77.03 Colin Hoschak II 10 27 2.00 +1.50 +5.54 75.00 +2.78 76.84 71.19 Petko 11 638 46.42 +31.44 +4.93 1156.70 +1.81 83.93 78.11 Elisa Kabiljo 12 135 9.05 +6.61 +4.90 338.97 +2.51 83.72 77.98 movieloverxxl 13 66 4.00 +3.22 +4.87 304.00 +4.61 79.00 72.70 Kellen Kooistra 14 3 1.00 +0.97 +4.83 77.00 +3.85 80.29 75.37 lore 15 6 1.00 +0.92 +4.62 77.00 +3.85 79.11 71.10 Ryan 16 15 1.08 +0.91 +4.53 75.83 +3.79 78.41 73.49 Andrew Heath 17 28 2.00 +1.27 +4.53 21.00 +0.75 74.03 68.12 aldiris 18 9 1.00 +0.90 +4.49 89.00 +4.45 55.28 50.65 Anders H Lindberg 19 9 1.00 +0.89 +4.43 86.00 +4.30 72.66 67.49 p_a_k_o 20 10 1.00 +0.88 +4.41 72.00 +3.60 76.53 71.38 Grethe 21 33 2.00 +1.44 +4.36 93.00 +2.82 76.03 70.24 alda 22 203 11.67 +8.83 +4.35 580.35 +2.86 83.91 78.13 Robin 23 11 1.00 +0.87 +4.35 87.00 +4.35 80.65 72.89 Reiner Martin 24 10 1.00 +0.86 +4.28 47.00 +2.35 80.89 75.53 Carl Worth 25 104 5.82 +4.42 +4.25 333.16 +3.20 86.25 80.68 Art Duval 26 16 1.00 +0.83 +4.13 92.00 +4.60 83.10 76.03 Antoine 27 14 1.00 +0.82 +4.09 49.00 +2.45 74.32 69.43 bimper2007 28 187 11.13 +7.63 +4.08 422.81 +2.26 83.03 78.10 glasse 29 171 9.46 +6.88 +4.02 388.49 +2.27 82.27 77.10 Thierry Wasserman 30 40 2.00 +1.54 +3.86 156.00 +3.90 82.54 75.31 Peter van der Walle 31 164 8.40 +6.32 +3.85 542.54 +3.31 82.72 76.85 Pawel Grabowski 32 28 1.38 +1.07 +3.82 106.98 +3.82 76.62 70.62 Nathaniel Watson 33 19 1.05 +0.75 +3.73 45.11 +2.26 71.63 66.69 Jonas 34 492 29.10 +18.35 +3.73 872.18 +1.77 83.29 77.78 FatPhil 35 9 1.00 +0.75 +3.73 28.00 +1.40 79.22 72.10 Milla Leskinen 36 16 1.00 +0.72 +3.59 45.00 +2.25 81.46 75.70 Darius 37 21 1.00 +0.75 +3.57 67.00 +3.19 76.35 70.99 theokratie 38 51 3.25 +1.82 +3.57 75.50 +1.48 79.39 73.43 saimon 39 17 1.22 +0.71 +3.54 28.24 +1.41 85.53 81.37 royalflush 40 36 2.11 +1.27 +3.54 47.67 +1.32 78.92 73.87 Foul Ole Ron 41 15 1.00 +0.70 +3.49 24.00 +1.20 83.37 77.15 Frank!! 42 285 18.79 +9.78 +3.43 272.11 +0.95 83.88 77.00 wojtex 43 12 1.08 +0.68 +3.41 21.38 +1.07 68.87 61.73 Ericos 44 12 1.00 +0.68 +3.38 25.00 +1.25 86.91 80.18 Sepe Ahtosalo 45 114 6.53 +3.85 +3.38 171.80 +1.51 79.93 73.88 Charlo 46 22 1.00 +0.74 +3.35 58.00 +2.64 69.60 65.79 forgret 47 51 3.11 +1.69 +3.32 70.67 +1.39 77.25 72.75 dgreene11235 48 20 1.00 +0.66 +3.30 41.00 +2.05 72.14 64.83 Benjamin Hellouin 49 67 3.06 +2.21 +3.30 199.50 +2.98 87.76 81.50 Bryan 50 50 2.32 +1.63 +3.26 107.63 +2.15 87.45 83.06 Svraka
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darse at 2012-01-23
51 22 1.00 +0.66 +2.99 68.00 +3.09 81.53 75.67 Dvd Avins 52 557 30.20 +16.55 +2.97 562.91 +1.01 78.84 72.93 slaapgraag 53 238 10.26 +7.01 +2.95 581.70 +2.44 84.99 79.87 Ed Collins 54 89 4.50 +2.58 +2.90 198.50 +2.23 81.46 74.24 Szandor 55 39 2.00 +1.13 +2.89 59.00 +1.51 79.28 73.29 Schaapmans 56 16 1.00 +0.57 +2.85 17.00 +0.85 84.76 79.41 Jonatan Rydh 57 84 3.88 +2.38 +2.83 177.45 +2.11 75.12 71.33 lauro 58 24 1.00 +0.67 +2.80 38.00 +1.58 73.40 68.37 mslano 59 42 2.00 +1.16 +2.76 55.00 +1.31 56.43 50.21 Johann Snyman 60 26 1.00 +0.70 +2.71 68.00 +2.62 75.52 67.87 tony z. 61 67 4.33 +1.77 +2.64 52.67 +0.79 71.36 61.34 nemrac 62 52 2.87 +1.36 +2.62 42.22 +0.81 74.65 69.34 kfiecio 63 284 10.80 +7.05 +2.48 567.14 +2.00 79.20 73.72 anwi 64 30 1.08 +0.74 +2.48 46.83 +1.56 61.73 56.12 Piotr Karas 65 24 1.00 +0.59 +2.46 31.00 +1.29 63.97 58.14 Brancas 66 64 2.25 +1.50 +2.34 109.75 +1.71 74.75 67.77 BIG BAD WOLF 67 370 15.87 +8.43 +2.28 489.32 +1.32 79.86 74.51 MichaeI X 68 44 1.50 +0.98 +2.23 88.00 +2.00 81.26 74.57 Trevor Green 69 536 25.70 +11.92 +2.22 446.62 +0.83 81.18 75.01 MarleysGhost 70 55 2.00 +1.22 +2.22 66.00 +1.20 76.51 72.33 Timo Laitinen 71 321 12.49 +6.82 +2.13 382.31 +1.19 79.84 74.38 Jaakko Pirinen 72 27 1.08 +0.56 +2.09 18.17 +0.67 84.74 78.80 Ola Mikael Hansson 73 31 1.00 +0.64 +2.06 56.00 +1.81 77.37 70.10 Woff 74 45 1.50 +0.92 +2.04 77.50 +1.72 76.57 69.71 Marco (DeSangre) 75 32 1.00 +0.64 +1.99 73.00 +2.28 71.38 66.46 j 76 281 9.53 +5.53 +1.97 388.23 +1.38 77.56 72.31 unsusto 77 32 1.00 +0.62 +1.93 70.00 +2.19 71.59 64.75 George 78 4 0.50 +0.38 +1.88 12.50 +0.62 72.36 67.15 mirror_man2 79 176 6.17 +3.27 +1.86 198.93 +1.13 81.58 76.62 Xander (xandern .BSW) 80 33 1.00 +0.61 +1.86 55.00 +1.67 64.57 58.73 jaz 81 66 2.00 +1.17 +1.78 90.00 +1.36 63.95 58.96 daisy 82 16 1.00 +0.35 +1.76 9.00 +0.45 62.37 50.84 Bill LeBoeuf 83 12 0.50 +0.35 +1.74 28.00 +1.40 65.94 61.76 I'm back 84 142 6.23 +2.45 +1.73 100.76 +0.71 73.39 67.55 blargdragon 85 35 1.00 +0.58 +1.67 29.00 +0.83 77.80 72.92 Francois 86 10 0.50 +0.33 +1.66 21.00 +1.05 67.50 64.50 Peter Koning 87 106 3.00 +1.66 +1.57 102.00 +0.96 72.81 67.30 Pleasance 88 110 3.50 +1.70 +1.55 89.00 +0.81 71.29 65.23 Ahmed al-Faqi 89 38 1.00 +0.56 +1.48 57.00 +1.50 72.89 66.17 Richard 90 384 11.77 +5.65 +1.47 388.55 +1.01 82.60 76.88 passenger 91 153 4.91 +2.24 +1.46 169.69 +1.11 79.44 74.20 sean_henderson 92 40 1.05 +0.58 +1.45 44.65 +1.12 63.76 58.08 Kendra Powell 93 166 5.00 +2.15 +1.30 91.00 +0.55 80.13 75.03 meanguy 94 182 5.39 +2.20 +1.21 41.88 +0.23 71.94 66.55 James A. Cook (Falsifian) 95 32 1.05 +0.37 +1.16 14.65 +0.46 72.49 68.36 maraca 96 59 1.40 +0.69 +1.16 52.17 +0.88 83.23 76.56 magicode 97 43 1.00 +0.48 +1.11 47.00 +1.09 65.00 60.46 diosmalos 98 44 1.00 +0.47 +1.06 29.00 +0.66 69.18 62.92 Hibernator 99 47 1.00 +0.46 +0.97 42.00 +0.89 63.45 58.07 Yvonne 100 44 1.00 +0.43 +0.97 15.00 +0.34 78.32 72.82 LV
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darse at 2012-01-23
101 35 1.02 +0.33 +0.93 -2.16 -0.06 72.20 68.29 metaldragon 102 43 1.00 +0.37 +0.85 -2.00 -0.05 67.19 63.47 NotMasclins 103 103 2.33 +0.84 +0.81 83.67 +0.81 63.20 57.56 Patrick Moore 104 48 1.00 +0.37 +0.77 53.00 +1.10 87.03 82.39 michael 105 90 2.05 +0.69 +0.76 55.11 +0.61 69.19 63.82 kuikka 106 366 8.40 +2.56 +0.70 267.96 +0.73 75.65 70.55 euhuang 107 61 2.00 +0.42 +0.69 17.00 +0.28 76.13 70.29 Phil The Hat 108 355 8.12 +2.38 +0.67 176.67 +0.50 77.01 71.93 kpato 109 158 3.00 +1.03 +0.65 89.50 +0.57 75.72 69.70 Rick Landis 110 82 1.55 +0.51 +0.63 58.65 +0.72 75.65 70.32 Matthias 111 114 2.08 +0.69 +0.60 50.92 +0.45 73.02 67.05 Syl 112 149 5.26 +0.81 +0.55 28.97 +0.19 79.82 73.87 Orbilin 113 1 0.12 +0.10 +0.51 4.62 +0.23 100.00 100.00 neilh23 114 53 1.04 +0.26 +0.49 33.41 +0.63 73.73 68.27 ishida 115 247 5.17 +1.15 +0.47 185.23 +0.75 78.21 72.49 Dustin 116 115 2.00 +0.52 +0.46 -2.50 -0.02 67.68 61.82 Fez 117 62 1.00 +0.28 +0.45 31.00 +0.50 74.02 67.75 Henrik Sjøl 118 92 1.69 +0.41 +0.44 26.28 +0.29 76.39 71.55 Belen B 119 52 1.00 +0.22 +0.43 41.00 +0.79 60.99 56.32 Robert Irvin 120 48 1.75 +0.20 +0.42 17.75 +0.37 78.22 70.01 Tom Ace 121 63 1.05 +0.26 +0.41 20.65 +0.33 82.87 76.54 Salla 122 74 1.65 +0.30 +0.41 25.42 +0.34 79.25 73.71 Mathias 123 146 2.55 +0.57 +0.39 47.53 +0.33 62.45 58.00 Michal Piszczalka(piszczyk) 124 349 6.34 +1.33 +0.38 123.61 +0.35 71.40 66.15 Sheila 125 248 5.15 +0.89 +0.36 83.51 +0.34 76.28 70.56 Jeppe Snell 126 118 2.00 +0.40 +0.34 58.00 +0.49 59.71 55.00 Anton Maslo 127 322 9.42 +1.06 +0.33 61.80 +0.19 72.91 66.49 Hjallti 128 104 3.75 +0.33 +0.32 13.56 +0.13 70.58 63.29 omike 129 69 1.12 +0.21 +0.31 8.58 +0.12 63.10 58.33 YSC 130 270 5.55 +0.79 +0.29 49.95 +0.18 74.03 68.83 Ricardo (Santos) 131 99 1.50 +0.25 +0.25 35.00 +0.35 67.66 61.48 Hartmut 132 68 1.00 +0.14 +0.20 18.00 +0.26 76.84 71.00 wandu 133 19 0.25 +0.04 +0.20 2.75 +0.14 68.15 61.95 pulsifer 134 29 1.00 +0.06 +0.20 3.00 +0.10 64.98 57.75 gothnerd 135 79 1.12 +0.16 +0.20 20.38 +0.26 75.31 69.59 Zoria 136 379 6.59 +0.73 +0.19 92.44 +0.24 78.00 72.63 Bill Collins 137 146 2.40 +0.25 +0.17 -63.82 -0.44 73.05 68.20 Ray Garrison 138 63 1.04 +0.10 +0.16 -18.25 -0.29 65.39 60.96 Gregorlo 139 22 0.62 +0.02 +0.11 0.00 +0.00 83.88 78.52 Hurricane_Power 140 4 0.09 +0.02 +0.08 1.64 +0.08 77.28 74.36 rodrigo 141 231 5.09 +0.15 +0.06 10.64 +0.05 78.36 73.33 Micco 142 370 10.24 +0.23 +0.06 -19.37 -0.05 73.80 67.48 Paul Gautherot 143 348 6.60 +0.19 +0.05 27.46 +0.08 77.29 71.61 klaashaas 144 78 1.04 +0.04 +0.05 -26.59 -0.34 63.02 57.50 MeanRat 145 101 1.56 +0.02 +0.02 36.50 +0.36 67.29 62.27 t0mski 146 11 0.33 -0.00 -0.00 -0.67 -0.03 81.46 75.30 JeanHebert 147 40 1.25 -0.01 -0.02 -0.75 -0.02 71.89 63.94 Burton 148 3 0.04 -0.01 -0.03 -0.25 -0.01 77.68 74.66 vrede
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darse at 2012-02-02
Here is an up-to-date “golf scorecard” for the last 18 games.
This one is a little different from mongoose's golf scorecard. If a player didn't play in a game, they are given a last-place rank (i.e. number of players in that game plus one), instead of “infinity”. Only the top 22 players are listed here.
Does anyone care about these stats?
Finishes over the last 18 games: maximum rank: 16 21 21 22 26 17 20 27 32 29 20 22 27 24 21 23 24 28 Rank Sum Back9 Rank for each game: 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 1 107 56 4 4 2 1 7 5 13 5 10 17 11 2 1 1 1 6 10 7 Elisa Kabiljo 2 137 59 16 5 5 1 26 1 3 6 15 11 10 14 1 3 1 3 1 15 wojtex 3 145 81 13 14 3 7 9 2 10 4 2 12 12 7 15 10 10 2 12 1 Hjallti 4 163 84 12 12 9 6 5 17 5 11 2 7 9 5 9 9 4 9 13 19 MarleysGhost 5 178 33 16 21 21 22 26 17 20 1 1 2 7 1 3 5 6 3 3 3 drbot 6 181 79 9 1 4 10 13 7 14 21 23 3 13 8 5 14 9 18 5 4 nemrac 7 196 87 16 5 5 13 12 12 17 8 21 14 7 3 18 10 8 19 2 6 Yoti 8 215 114 2 9 16 4 18 11 12 17 12 9 16 5 20 4 14 12 16 18 funtobewith11 9 222 122 16 21 8 22 2 3 8 6 14 1 3 12 22 8 5 23 20 28 Tom Ace 10 226 99 15 10 20 3 23 6 7 27 16 22 1 13 17 21 13 3 7 2 slaapgraag 11 231 111 16 5 11 22 1 10 20 27 8 26 20 17 10 5 10 8 3 12 Bill LeBoeuf 12 232 127 16 1 21 11 16 17 1 3 19 3 6 15 4 20 21 23 24 11 keith630 13 237 126 4 17 19 9 14 7 20 13 8 28 4 22 14 7 12 15 7 17 Finn Th. Nielsen 14 262 133 16 21 18 22 4 13 9 10 16 12 18 11 8 16 17 20 15 16 lrreiche 15 269 126 8 18 12 15 24 15 10 25 16 18 15 3 20 1 21 17 17 14 Dasher 16 272 192 7 14 1 12 6 3 18 15 4 6 17 22 27 24 21 23 24 28 nonpharm 17 279 124 6 10 10 19 26 17 14 22 31 18 13 15 12 14 18 10 14 10 Dionysos 18 279 199 1 8 14 8 15 9 2 13 10 24 20 22 16 24 21 21 24 27 somar96 19 306 124 16 21 21 22 26 17 14 16 29 23 2 9 7 18 14 7 18 26 thomsen nielsen 20 311 167 14 13 15 21 19 14 4 19 25 21 19 20 23 23 7 12 21 21 roxann 21 312 139 16 21 17 20 8 17 20 27 27 25 20 17 6 12 21 23 7 8 blitzkrieg_ 22 315 161 3 19 21 18 21 17 19 17 19 27 5 22 13 22 20 1 23 28 ypercube
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slaapgraag at 2012-02-02
Yeah, nice work. To be honest, I care most about the golfcard, actually. (Lat-place rank is an improvement). Now I need to put a little extra work on emapthy now! ;-)
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Elisa Kabiljo at 2012-02-02
I like statistic. When I started to play Empathy, at first I played only some interesting games. Mongoose statistic was main reason for me to play every game, and then I got addicted.
Now main problem with empathy is small number of players - only 39 in last 7 games. Game is more interesting when there is lot of players. Also first 10 places from 30 players don't have same weight as first 10 places from 100 players. If yours statistic can attract more players to Empathy, it will be great. If you know some other ways to attract more players, it will be great too.
nice work
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darse at 2012-02-08
I have no idea if this will work not, but i'll give it a try…
I modified the program to spit out a bunch of HTML code, hoping that it will produce a golf scorecard table, in a style similar to the Little Golem tournament crosstables. Here goes nuthin':
Empathy finishes over the last 18 games
Empathy finishes over the last 18 games
Empathy finishes over the last 18 games
Finish date: February 6, 2012212226172027322920222724212324282524maximum rankRankSumBack9123456789101112131415161718Player Name11013021751351017112111610711Elisa Kabiljo2142645126136151110141313115251wojtex31432621222617201127135633311drbot4148779651751127959949131945MarleysGhost515897379210421212715101021212317Hjallti
[cringe]
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darse at 2012-02-08
Well, that sucks. :-/
It looked fine on my browser preview, but now the header has gone mad.
It also rejects the post if it is any larger than 5 rows. I'll play with it tomorrow and see if i can do better…
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darse at 2012-02-08
Meanwhile, may as well finish showing the current top 10 with this broken version.
Empathy finishes over the last 18 games
Empathy finishes over the last 18 games
Finish date: February 6, 2012212226172027322920222724212324282524maximum rankRankSumBack9123456789101112131415161718Player Name618880410137142123313851491854314nemrac719081513121217821147318108192678Yoti81961298222386141312228523202865Tom Ace92301151641811121712916520414121618224funtobewith111023110620323672716221131721133721218slaapgraag
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darse at 2012-02-08
And here are some stats on the top players over the past 50 games (this time in glorious plain text!).
This list is sorted by the average _percentage of the winning score_ (using a true Bayesian average toward the mean if the player has less than 20 games). All three metrics give pretty similar rankings, and the top spot is the same for all of them… (That would be, erm… me :-)
Empathy Player Rankings over the last 50 games, sorted by average percentage of the top score (minimum 20 games) Legend: rank = overall rank among all past participants games = number of games played wins = total wins and shared wins win-loss = total win shares minus loss shares w-l_avg = average win shares minus loss shares per game * 100 chips = total chips earned over all games played (1-chip ante) chip_avg = average chips earned per game (1-chip ante) top_avg = average percentage of the top score achieved max_avg = average percentage of the maximum score possible username = player username rank games wins win-loss w-l_avg chips ch_avg top_avg max_avg username 1 13 3.83 +3.28 +16.42 84.67 +4.23 94.86 86.16 drbot 2 45 8.70 +6.93 +15.39 190.13 +4.23 85.80 75.89 wojtex 3 50 7.45 +5.41 +10.83 151.38 +3.03 85.26 75.69 Elisa Kabiljo 4 48 5.54 +3.59 +7.48 108.83 +2.27 83.42 73.32 MarleysGhost 5 28 1.50 +0.36 +1.30 16.00 +0.57 81.25 70.90 Tom Ace 6 5 0.08 -0.08 -0.40 -2.62 -0.13 91.84 88.44 passenger 7 38 1.62 +0.12 +0.32 -5.78 -0.15 74.60 64.48 somar96 8 10 0.04 -0.26 -1.31 -8.17 -0.41 78.06 69.89 klaashaas 9 10 0.50 +0.09 +0.43 3.00 +0.15 78.05 66.59 saimon 10 49 3.33 +1.34 +2.73 40.67 +0.83 74.41 64.21 nemrac 11 47 1.29 -0.66 -1.40 -10.92 -0.23 74.31 63.93 Hjallti 12 5 0.54 +0.40 +1.98 11.83 +0.59 82.99 75.30 Got Twixt 13 21 1.37 +0.66 +3.13 15.47 +0.74 73.57 66.90 Jos 14 18 0.00 -0.74 -3.70 -18.00 -0.90 73.53 64.36 Paul Gautherot 15 6 0.54 +0.36 +1.81 10.83 +0.54 78.43 69.71 Aaron Coombs 16 5 0.04 -0.10 -0.52 -3.17 -0.16 79.63 72.37 zwack 17 4 0.00 -0.12 -0.60 -4.00 -0.20 81.46 73.45 Robert Mathew 18 4 0.04 -0.08 -0.38 -2.17 -0.11 81.00 71.19 sean_henderson 19 4 0.00 -0.12 -0.62 -4.00 -0.20 80.59 72.08 damasceno 20 2 0.00 -0.05 -0.27 -2.00 -0.10 89.42 88.36 narayan 21 45 2.00 +0.14 +0.30 -4.00 -0.09 72.76 62.07 slaapgraag 22 2 0.04 -0.01 -0.07 -0.17 -0.01 85.71 79.41 Stella Chui 23 1 0.33 +0.28 +1.42 5.67 +0.28 100.00 64.44 Randy J. 24 1 0.04 +0.02 +0.09 0.83 +0.04 100.00 100.00 Ray Garrison 25 1 0.04 +0.02 +0.09 0.83 +0.04 100.00 100.00 Antonio
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MarleysGhost at 2012-02-08
There must be a way to post more than 5 rows as a table. RoRoRo does it when he posts ratings-based probabilities of winning a championship.
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Aganju at 2012-02-09
About the head issue: when you post a table, the page collects all line breaks (the br stuff) from all cells, and places them all before the table itself. Don't ask me why.
Just enter the table without line breaks.
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darse at 2012-02-09
Thanks Aganju. I was being lazy, just copying RoRoRo's template; but the quick 'n dirty approach was too dirty, and not very quick either… ;-p
I'm generating a much leaner table now (less formatting fluff), so hopefully the next update will look a little better.
[Also, RoRoRo is a full member, and might have more generous posting limits.]
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darse at 2012-02-09
Okay, trying for a new level of fail… :-)
Empathy finishes over the last 18 games
Last updated: February 9, 2012
For expression: “star wars”
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darse at 2012-02-09
RankPlayer NameSumBk91234567891011121314151617181Elisa Kabiljo10029175135101711211161071112drbot1232622261720112713563331113wojtex1385112613615111014131311525114MarleysGhost1437665175112795994913194545Hjallti17511079210421212715101021212317206nemrac1917910137142123313851491854314760maximum rank431216222617202732292022272421232428252420
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darse at 2012-02-09
RankPlayer NameSumBk91234567891011121314151617187Tom Ace19512422238614131222852320286578Yoti1999213121217821147318108192678149slaapgraag2311133236727162211317211337212182010funtobewith11232128418111217129165204141216182241811Bill LeBoeuf24190221102027826201710510831211151612Finn Th. Nielsen24211791472013828422147121571719161013lrreiche242127224139101612181181617201516991714Dasher2561151524151025161815320121171714127615keith630261170111617131936154202123241125222060maximum rank431216222617202732292022272421232428252420
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darse at 2012-02-09
RankPlayer NameSumBk912345678910111213141516171816Dionysos2921171926171422311813151214181014108191217thomsen nielsen2961382226171416292329718147182616122018blitzkrieg_3091282081720272725201761221237821102019nonpharm3192161263181546172227242123242825242020somar9632520281592131024202216242121242725242021ypercube328163182117191719275221322201232824131922roxann329167211914419252119202323712212117232060maximum rank431216222617202732292022272421232428252420
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darse at 2012-02-09
Still struggling with the size…
The first table is larger because the game numbers have hover-over tags and links to the corresponding game. I assume that is worthwhile?
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darse at 2012-02-09
The full table is posted on the drbot player profile:
http://www.littlegolem.net/jsp/info/player.jsp?plid=26854
Should i post updates here (for a permanent record), or just point to it whenever it's updated?
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MarleysGhost at 2012-02-10
IMHO, just having a current golf card is sufficient.
Is drbot's play in GoE fully automated?
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darse at 2012-02-10
No, for Empathy drbot is mostly me, although i have done some scripting to process Google results as a “bag of words”. (Not especially useful it turns out – that's how i came up with the Nobel Prize committee (1) lemon).
My policy is that any computer-assisted games go under drbot (e.g. human/computer centaur, drei-hirn, etc.). Empathy is an edge case, but since i started the first game with drbot, i've just continued to use it for that. This way i can use an algorithm for certain categories with a clear conscience. If the expression is ever “coolest 20-digit prime numbers”, i'll be all over it! :)
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darse at 2012-02-13
Congrats to MarleysGhost on a nice win, with a perfect top-10 score!
That moves MG up to 3rd place on the golf scorecard. I'm closing in on Elisa for the top spot, with three non-games still to be swapped out (i've played 15 games so far).
Please see the drbot player profile (link above) for a more complete table.
Empathy finishes over the last 18 games (“golf scorecard”)
Last updated: February 12, 2012
For the expression: “favorite beverage”
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darse at 2012-02-13
RankPlayer NameSumBk91234567891011121314151617181Elisa Kabiljo10332751351017112111610711142drbot104262617201127135633311133MarleysGhost1386851751127959949131945414wojtex1435626136151110141313115251165Tom Ace18711623861413122285232028657146Hjallti195122921042121271510102121231720277Yoti1978512121782114731810819267814118nemrac19992137142123313851491854314718
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darse at 2012-02-13
RankPlayer NameSumBk91234567891011121314151617189Bill LeBoeuf2218211020278262017105108312111516210lrreiche233132413910161218118161720151699171311funtobewith11237117181112171291652041412161822418912slaapgraag25111923672716221131721133721218202313Dasher2571112415102516181532012117171412761614Finn Th. Nielsen258128147201382842214712157171916102515keith630277193161713193615420212324112522202716Dionysos278110261714223118131512141810141081912562maximum rank436216261720273229202227242123242825242027
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darse at 2012-02-13
RankPlayer NameSumBk912345678910111213141516171817thomsen nielsen3011582617141629232971814718261612202718blitzkrieg_3131468172027272520176122123782110202419ypercube324164211719171927522132220123282413191420roxann327163191441925211920232371221211723201921nonpharm3342166318154617222724212324282524202762maximum rank436216261720273229202227242123242825242027
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darse at 2012-02-16
Congrats to MarleysGhost for a second consecutive clear win!
And welcome back to stevo.h, whose last game of Empathy was more than three years ago. No signs of rust, as he finished in a strong third place!
This was a tough category. The top answer, “dollar”, was chosen by only 14 of the 23 players, and the top ten answers comprised only 40% of all answers. [That might be an interesting stat to add to the game summaries, as a measure of how “spread out” the answers were…]
On the golf card, i muscled into the top spot, and wojtex moved into third, as we both swapped out a 26-point “did-not-play”.
Empathy finishes over the last 18 games (“golf scorecard”)
Last updated: February 15, 2012
For the expression: “names for money”
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darse at 2012-02-16
RankPlayer NameSumBk91234567891011121314151617181drbot8023172011271356333111322Elisa Kabiljo10439513510171121116107111483wojtex126621361511101413131152511694MarleysGhost1346017511279599491319454115Yoti191811217821147318108192678141166Tom Ace197120386141312228523202865714127nemrac203957142123313851491854314718178Hjallti210136210421212715101021212317202724
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darse at 2012-02-16
RankPlayer NameSumBk91234567891011121314151617189slaapgraag2351056727162211317211337212182023710Bill LeBoeuf23895102027826201710510831211151621811funtobewith11238132111217129165204141216182241891912Dasher2451221510251618153201211717141276161213Finn Th. Nielsen24812572013828422147121571719161025414lrreiche2501371391016121811816172015169917132115Dionysos274118171422311813151214181014108191252216keith630285197171319361542021232411252220272417thomsen nielsen2991641714162923297181471826161220272418blitzkrieg_31514417202727252017612212378211020241019roxann322154144192521192023237122121172320191420ypercube326165171917192752213222012328241319142362maximum rank434216172027322920222724212324282524202724
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slaapgraag at 2012-02-17
Well, no more 'empathy for fun'. Now darse managed the new golfcard, it's gonna be 'hardcore GOE'….
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darse at 2012-02-17
But you're already at the top of the table…
Oh, you mean you're going to go for the *first* table? ;-)
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darse at 2012-02-19
The latest game was pretty tough, but not among the toughest (outside the top 50).
game plrs 1s 1pp Ws top_an top10 top/max category / expression [ winner ] 758 25 83 3.32 1 72.00 34.00 85.33 go [ drbot ]
72% of players had the top answer (game), but only 44% of players had the second
most common answer (stone). There was an average of 3.3 unique answers per player.
It seems that players either went with “go” as a verb, or went with “go” as a game,
without much mixing between the two. I started with leave (8) and away (7), but
soon rejected all of the verb associations (assuming the LG bias toward the game
would be huge). I was totally wrong, but still managed to come out on top!
For the golf scorecard, my back-9 tally is a fairly decent 18 (18 under par:).
For the round, i have a score of 44 as i stroll onto the 18th tee…
@Tiger: eat your heart out. :-)
Empathy finishes over the last 18 games (“golf scorecard”)
Last updated: February 18, 2012
For the expression: “go”
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darse at 2012-02-19
RankPlayer NameSumBk91234567891011121314151617181drbot641820112713563331113212Elisa Kabiljo10847135101711211161071114893MarleysGhost119585112795994913194541124wojtex130663615111014131311525116955Yoti18175178211473181081926781411626Tom Ace202123861413122285232028657141287nemrac203931421233138514918543147181778slaapgraag2339672716221131721133721218202374
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darse at 2012-02-19
RankPlayer NameSumBk91234567891011121314151617189Hjallti234152104212127151010212123172027242610Bill LeBoeuf24198202782620171051083121115162181311Dasher2451161025161815320121171714127616121512Finn Th. Nielsen24611820138284221471215717191610254513lrreiche2511349101612181181617201516991713211414funtobewith11252143121712916520414121618224189192515Dionysos274117142231181315121418101410819125221716keith630286194131936154202123241125222027241817thomsen nielsen3081761416292329718147182616122027242618blitzkrieg_32214720272725201761221237821102024102419roxann328167419252119202323712212117232019142020ypercube329165191719275221322201232824131914232062maximum rank443221202732292022272421232428252420272426
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darse at 2012-02-21
Five winners in the repeat category (game #507), including previous
winners Elisa and wojtex, but not including previous winner slaapgraag.
Previous participant funtobewith11 also improved to first place, by
naming the 10 (Latin genus) classifications for “types of clouds”.
Personally, i would have preferred things like fluffy (2), dark (3),
and storm (6), but that wasn't where the money was.
I complete the “round” with a final tally of 45, including 16 on the
back-9, but the accomplishment is eroded by the repeated expressions
(some of which i failed to notice).
Empathy finishes over the last 18 games (“golf scorecard”)
Last updated: February 21, 2012
For the expression: “types of clouds”
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darse at 2012-02-21
RankPlayer NameSumBk91234567891011121314151617181drbot45161127135633311132112Elisa Kabiljo964251017112111610711148913wojtex128646151110141313115251169514MarleysGhost1306511279599491319454112165Yoti17668821147318108192678141162126nemrac199852123313851491854314718177107Tom Ace2051116141312228523202865714128118Bill LeBoeuf2381072782620171051083121115162181317
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darse at 2012-02-21
RankPlayer NameSumBk91234567891011121314151617189funtobewith1124113217129165204141216182241891925110slaapgraag24511227162211317211337212182023741911Hjallti246172421212715101021212317202724262212Finn Th. Nielsen24812513828422147121571719161025452213Dasher2501142516181532012117171412761612151514lrreiche26013210161218118161720151699171321141815Dionysos26911622311813151214181014108191252217916keith6303071933193615420212324112522202724182217thomsen nielsen3161911629232971814718261612202724262218blitzkrieg_32414627272520176122123782110202410242219ypercube329183171927522132220123282413191423201920roxann3381691925211920232371221211723201914201462maximum rank445220273229202227242123242825242027242622
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slaapgraag at 2012-02-22
yeah, i knew this was a repeat, but I havn't figured out how to find the answers on the games not listed on 'past games' (not knowing the #number). I just copied the first 10 wiki-names. Got me 10 points :-(
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darse at 2012-02-22
To get the game number, just search for the expression on the list of previous topics that i posted (or on mongoose's “time machine” list). Then go to that LG previous game page, editing the end of the URL to insert the right game number. (Older games aren't linked to on the past 60 games page, but the pages do exist).
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MarleysGhost at 2012-02-22
> the list of previous topics that i posted
Where was that posted, again?
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darse at 2012-02-22
It's in the “repeated repeats” thread:
http://www.littlegolem.net/jsp/forum/topic2.jsp?forum=200&topic=448
The mongoose list for the first 601 games is at:
http://www.tavislee.com/goe/timemachine